MSRED/MSRE Megathread 2020
It's about that time of the year ya'll, I figured i'd make the thread this year and gather those sweet, sweet, banana points.
Please see below stats and let me know if you have any general questions about the process and MSREDs in general. Good luck to ya'll, and i'll update as I receive any responses. I'd love some input from those who are applying and status of those who have heard back.
Stats/Background:
University/Major/GPA - State School(Think Illinois, Purdue, Etc, TAMU)/Civil Engineering/Sub 3.0 Trash
GMAT - 710 - 44Q/44V/8IR/6AWA
W/E - GC Project Management/Owners Rep, 3.5 years.
Hooks - Non-URM, Non-Legacies
School Status:
MIT - Applied
Harvard MDes - Applied
Columbia - Applied
Cornell - Applied, Interviewed
NYU - Applied
Cheers,
DFY
Stopping in to say good luck. My MRED experience had its share of pros and cons, but it was an overall positive experience and helped my career tremendously.
Cheers and thanks
1. Enough knowledge to transition to a Development role, currently an owner's rep. Shiny piece of paper to get me in the club/network and ability eventually start my own shop.
2. Most don't have specific OCR/career fairs except Cornell. Others have career services/networking events to help guide the process. I think Cornell's the only one i've talked to so far that has "Career Fairs" but they're in NYC.
Is it possible to use an MSRE/MSRED similar to an MBA, and switch into RE? I'm currently in F500 FP&A and want to get out, I'm just not sure how realistic the change would be.
It is possible to get into some of these programs with no traditional RE background. A lot of prior discussions do talk about other individual using an MSRE/MRED to break in from other non-related areas of work, but there are also comments that say the first gig after grad school can be hard to land because employers would still put you in the same pool as newly-minted grads who have recently finished their undergrad.
Other discussions on this topic do tend to praise the MBA more than the MSRE mostly because MBA programs are longer established, more known/available and have lots of options career-wise. MBA admissions are more competitive though.
What kind of FP&A do you do, and how long have you been there? You may be able to make the hop a little sooner without actually having to pick up a fancy masters degree.
Everything about this is spot on. The key is to find a way to get a real estate internship - either before you attend school or while you're there. An architect, contractor, engineer, etc. with a summer associate internship and a MRED/MSRE is a strong candidate.
I'm in a hybrid FP&A / sales support role. So I do the standard forecasting, budgeting, etc. but I also work with the sales team to respond to customer RFP's. I'll pretty much work with sales/pricing to build a bottoms up forecast 3-5 years to present in the approval process.
I've been here about two years now, have two promotions and recently got senior analyst.
I made the jump from FP&A into RE last year without any grad program (currently looking into one though), it’s definitely doable.
When you visited Harvard, did you get any admissions data (what they look for grades and experience wise / acceptance rate)?
I have called them and they hold that info pretty tightly. I want to throw in an application next year, but I don’t want to spend the time to put together a portfolio and etc. if it’s hyper competitive and I have no chance.
They're pretty tight lipped about the admissions data, even when meeting on site. I have terrible grades so I have no idea what they're looking for, but their experience was architecture to PE and everywhere in between. The group definitely felt younger than the MIT group, i'd say around 3 years of exp average vs the 5+ that I felt from MIT.
The portfolio portion guidelines weren't nearly as aggressive as the GSD architecture program though, it was more of a work sample submission. I submitted a couple with a pretty title sheet, not sure if that's sufficient though. From the open house, it was definitely less populous than the MIT. I think MIT is the highest standard with a roughly 700 GMAT, but no requirements noted for GPA. They didn't seem to care as much about grades as much as work experience and they emphasized the holistic nature of selection in both cases.
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Stats:
University/Major/GPA - Australian University / Construction Management / 3.0
GRE - 313
W/E - 11 years of project management; GC + Developer + Owners Rep in SF/Bay Area and Australia for a number of name brand companies on the owners side
School Status:
USC - Accepted + $
Columbia - Accepted + $$$
Berkeley - Accepted + $$ + offered a pretty lucrative TA position (potentially $30k for 2 semesters) which is enticing
Your experience makes you lethal. What do you hope to get from a MSRED that you don't already have? An American degree for branding purposes?
Exactly. I also want to learn the finance side of development. My experience is heavy on design and construction, so attempting to fill the gap whilst improving my network.
Tbh I’m also split on which track I’d like to take post graduation. REPE interests me. On one hand I think I’d do well as a development manager, but the comp doesn’t seem that impressive.
Going back to school will also give me a chance to figure out exactly what I want to do next
if one was admitted to MIT, Columbia, and Cornell - where would you choose? And how are Berkeley and UCLA's programs now?
By consensus on this forum, it seems like MIT is the premier program in the country. Anecdotally, I was extremely impressed by their open house process, staff, and students. Everyone had an extremely impressive resume and the student body was very tight knit. You also have opportunities to take classes at Sloan, HBS, and Harvard which I found really neat.
I think Columbia would be best if someone was deadset on NYC, but their class size is huge which may be a pro/con depending on your opinions of it.
Cornell's got the legendary hospitality program, and it's 2 years which is a pro/con depending on opportunity cost. Seems easier to pivot with 2 years, and it's not as much of a mad rush. You're still losing 2 years of work to two years of paying for school though.
No idea about the California schools at this point. I've seen a lot of job listings noting MSRE/MBAs as plus's, and i'm sure having UCLA or Berkeley on the resume doesn't hurt, especially on the west coast.
I would add USC on there as well. Formidable alumni base and prestige on west coast.
They don't get to take classes at Harvard
I'm sure MIT is a great program and that your outcomes post graduation would be fantastic. That said, if it was down to me to choose between the three, I'd take Columbia. Plenty of pedigree / name brand reputation but most importantly, its in NYC. I think that is an advantage in the internship / job rat race and also...I'd personally rather live in NYC than any other place in the US, though I suppose that's more of a person to person kind of thing.
Did you use an essay to explain your GPA? Or how did you address your sub 3.0 situation? I'm in the same boat with a pretty trash undergrad gpa... Haven't taken gmat yet as I'm gonna apply next year but curious as to how you approached it
Not OP, but I also had a sub 3.0 GPA and I've always found the best way to deal with it is to own it.
You briefly explain why, what you learned from it, why you are a more mature person now, and why your failures won't be replicated in the future. You need to practice this answer like a politician would so that it sounds logical and makes sense and flows, but don't lie, don't make excuses, and don't try to deflect.
"I fucked up because I was immature and unfocused. Through my time at X company, I've learned responsibility and have had success with X, Y, and Z. I've also taken leadership positions in _____ organization and volunteered in my spare time with ______. I want to attend your program to accomplish A, B, and C and I now know how to succeed in school by focusing on ________."
Then go do it. I made the honorary society for my grades in graduate school.
I had a paragraph on my school. I generally owned it, noted that I was working 30 hours a week, first gen college student, and that I improved my grades after freshman/sophomore year while taking the tough, junior year engineering courses.
I also had good relationships with my junior year professors which i'm hoping may help. They understood my situation and actually saw me working during my shifts, and wrote me recommendations as well.
Also hoping my 710 gets rid of some of the fears.
General consensus from the schools I applied to was that WE trumps all. I addressed it in my personal statement (also worked 30+ hrs/week during school, first in family to attend college + student/athlete). If you have the narrative in place it seems to be excusable
Just here to wish everyone luck with the process and encourage those who may be on the bubble to consider getting the MSRE. I spent years trying to network my way from a corporate real estate job (as in, being in charge of leasing and buildouts for a large tenant) to capital markets unsuccessfully. I started the program at NYU Schack and just on the strength of being accepted got hired by a private equity firm to be in acquisitions. After 6 months, I got to move to a prolific shop that is probably the best in its category. None of this would've been possible without getting my MS.
What made you decide to get an MSRE vs a part time mba?
1) Was pretty certain I wanted to stay in real estate 2) Frankly, I wouldn't have been competitive at top MBA programs. I figured it was better to have an MS in RE from NYU than an MBA from some no-name bullshit school. I did my UG at a state school and graduated with a ~3.36 gpa. 3) Didn't want to deal with the BS of the GMAT if my gpa was going to hold me back from elite MBA programs anyway.
Finally able to get around to posting my stats
Undergrad: Econ from Top public university (think Berkeley, UVA, UTA...) but a lackluster GPA
Work Experience: 4 years in capital markets/brokerage
Georgetown: Applied NYU: Applied USC: Applied Columbia: Applied; Accepted 2/27
Did you apply fall or summer for Georgetown? I was thinking about applying as well, but the deadline isn't until April for fall.
Also did you take the GMAT/GRE?
Fall for Georgetown. Like the program based on its flexibility in attendance, cost, and all around name.
Took GRE a while back. It was about 300 from what I remember.
All around I'm not feeling like the strongest applicant, but I'm not worried that I won't get in somewhere.
Going back to school wasn't a part of the career plans, but I am giving it a shot and seeing where it goes. Hoping that it bring me the network or the opportunities I've been hunting for.
Do you have a first choice school from those that you applied @Dumpster Fire Yuppie" ?
Congrats on Cornell btw!
Got into USC today, 3/3/2020!
Congrats! USC is my first choice. Yet to hear anything. Did you get any aid?
Amidst everything that is going on with the Covid-19, Columbia is moving the start of the MRED program from June 2020 to September 2020. It came in an email earlier today, stating that this was a one-time exception.
Solid results man! Any program will let you achieve your goals!
Congrats! Cornell vs. Columbia is a hell of a decision, but a great one to be in position to make.
Where did you decide to go and why?
Congrats. Fantastic school.
Definitely visit though first, preferably soon before the weather breaks. Ithaca isn't for everyone.
Any other WSO users throwing in apps for this year???
International applicant
Columbia: Applied NYU: Accepted 2/26
Anyone else receive a response from NYU? I haven't seen anything. Was that for the MSRE or MSRED?
NYU MSRED - turned around the application around d the same time Columbia’s was due since the essay prompts were basically the same. No funding at either school though
I was just accepted at Columbia, so check your emails! Coming back later tonight to post stats (sorry).
Congrats! Got it too.
Congrats to you as well! Stats as promised (long day and night yesterday, sorry):
College/Major: Lower Ivy/Econ GPA: ~3.8 GMAT: low 700s Work Experience: IB (RE group) ~ 1.5 years Hooks: absolutely nothing
Only threw in apps to Harvard MDes and Columbia (not enough experience for MIT and Cornell is just a little too long).
In here too. Got some nice scholarship funding which I wasn't expecting
Columbia: applied and accepted Harvard: applied (V1 - and accepted) MIT: applied
edit: V1 - accepted at Harvard
Stats?
27 5/6 years acquisitions at developer 320 GRE 3.1 GPA Top 40 liberal arts school
Congrats on Harvard!
thanks man - hard work is paying off!
Congrats on the already accepted offers!
I was in a similar situation a few years ago (accepted to Columbia and NYU) and was not sure where to go. Ultimately, I decided for NYU and haven't looked back since. The program might not be as prestige as Columbia, but if you stay active and involved in student life and networking events it can be a true game changer. I moved from Cali to NYU (originally from Europe) and knew absolutely no one in NYC, which basically forced me to network and meet with industry folks in order to advance. I had zero re experience, but was able to secure good internships through professors, students and guest speakers, which ultimately helped me secure my FT REPE offer on visa sponsorship (uphill battle).
Personally, I did a MSRE and found the degree to help me get interviews (and some offers) at pretty much any facet of the industry and for both smaller investment/development shops to massive CRE groups at investment banks. All schools you listed are great and will provide you with good fundamentals. The real "challenge" is to find the program/student body that suits what you're after. As a friendly tip, if you intent to work/be based in NYC, I'd highly recommend NYU as you will come across Schack alumni pretty much anywhere you fare.
Best of luck in choosing!
Sounds like you really killed it. I mean to make a move across the country rebuild a network especially in a short time to lock down an internship and a full-time gig is pretty impressive. When first locking down those gigs did the NY job market feel like it offered a lot more than Cali did?
I was 6 months into a job in one of the FANG companies in Silicon Valley when I decided to jump ship so can't really say much personally about the real estate job market in Cali as I was in a complete different industry. However, I have peers from NYU that ended up taking jobs in SF & LA and they seem to be loving it. If you end up in a decent shop you probably would look at a lot of the same deals regardless so then it comes more down to where you want to settle down for the time being. Hope that helps!
If you have the chance to go to MIT or Harvard for RE- then the only answer (barring an extraordinary circumstance) is to run don't walk to attend. It will pay national even global lifelong dividends in every way possible. There are strong intercollegiate relations across all schools and those contacts could prove extremely beneficial one day (especially given the growing intersection of tech and real estate that we are seeing).
The same imperative would apply to an elite top 3 mba especially Wharton given its congenial/cooperative real estate community and outsized graduate success.
Aside from this and especially if you are in NYC (the BigRE center of the world) completing NYU's MSRE program with emphasis on the finance and investment designation is the next best decision. If you have the ability to consistently reach out and earnestly build relationships (and work to maintain them over professional life) within this alumni network there is literally no one or nothing outside of your professional reach. I would say this, and the program’s near complete even fervent emphasis on giving graduates very practical/holistic/industry -sought skills upon graduation such as being able to (under direction/review/scrutiny from a working nyc MD/CIO/CDO/CEO in a form and level he expects from underlings) model every investment type/class or novel scenario presented, on the fly, and defend vigorously the substance (assumptions, conclusions, drivers, thesis, etc) not just mastering the superficial modeling style and format (GI/GO).
In terms of the above posting - plenty of students pass on Columbia/Cornell for NYU RE given NYU’s is one of the oldest programs in the country (which does not face major shake-ups on the top administrative/leadership level every few years or gross changes to its basic structure and focus or the program’s curriculum giving an unknown even shaky quantity feel to the degree - see Columbia’s msred history and various ongoing student complaints) and gives many local pre-grad internship opportunities which can be essential in having a well rounded and adequately experienced resume, and full employment lined up when your student loans becomine due. Especially if you are a career switcher with a humanities pedigree seeking to objectively rebrand yourself as a more business/finance/quantitative -oriented professional by way of their decades old programmatic Finance & Investment Major. A distinction that an architecture-centric (e.g., bricks and beams) msred will not give you. This, and maybe the fact that NYU's expansive, seasoned and generally highly approachable alumni community can give you all the connections you need without ever having to leave the msre program and reach out to the broader university alumni. I have heard more than a few times that Columbia BS/BA and MBA grads may not look at Columbia MSRED as kindred academic spirits and are not chomping at the bit to help them —to be polite about it. Or have a overweighted international alumni base disproportionately returning to mainland China/Korea each year and who wanted a summary vehicle to place Columbia on their resume and don’t have any lifelong nexus to NYC or the larger NY real estate community. By way of example, google: “china msred columbia LinkedIn”. Then remove the search term “china” and run the Google search again. The results are largely: immutable. Many gainfully employed highly experienced NYC real estate professionals seeking a master’s cannot or will not leave their employ for 2+ years and will choose NYU’s program because it gives them the higher -order finance investment skills and the lifelong local social network without sacrificing the most highly -valued item in real estate which is real work experience/career progression (setting aside the other matter of substantial lost income which can equal six figures unto itself). Several are fully or partially sponsored by their firm (ex, Clarion, Blackrock, etc; search LinkedIn for the ms degree plus uninterrupted work histories for similar results). You won’t meet these particular local well -placed high value seasoned professionals in other programs (or have them as fellow alumni) since the format makes it impossible for them to keep their desired jobs and study at the same time.
The real estate game (PE/IB/Development/Consultancy, etc.) is filled with shoots and ladders, hard walls and black holes (the likes of which you had no idea about until you progressed through a variety of roles). Most won’t start off with a rich beneficent uncle to fund them or a seasoned industry mentor to gingerly guide them which is why a real estate master’s degree or top mba can have exponential value (in avoiding a lot of needless pain, preventing a lot of wasted time and short circuiting what can seem like a interminable journey getting to where you want to go).
Despite this, if you don’t enter any re master’s with the intent to squeeze the (insert explicative!) marrow out of the program (short list: number one, by an order of magnitude, being to intern as much as humanly possible pre-graduation to the point where you have time for little else, networking with classmates and project-mates like it’s a job and learning about their experiences/issues/likes/dislikes in their current re firm and their overall career goals/aspirations, seeking out active re entrepreneurs in your program - there will be quietly many and asking if can you volunteer on some deal aspects on the weekends or in your free time, going to “all” the events inside and outside of class from the topical panels, xyz re summits to competing in and supporting the national case study competitions/events, creating working relationships with professors who are in great part there because they really love real estate and want to help people get ahead in a increasingly tough business- trust in the fact that most of these guys know/respect the struggle, going for coffee chats with people in the industry or alumni and thereafter keeping in touch (pick a monthly goal and stick to it), thinking like an investor from day one while in school and crafting investment theses and bouncing them off colleagues, modeling in your free time, deciphering real deals on the side (the net is filled with PDFs of property level/portfolio level OMs and REIT prospectuses, some of which are like textbooks for the uninitiated and can hip you to new investment strategies, companies/employers/successful career bios and geographic areas with improving or deteriorating fundamentals) and asking yourself does this deal/type/structure/strategy interest me, etc.) then it won’t be nearly (emphasis strongly added) as beneficial in mitigating the above.
In fact, if you are not willing to do the above or at least push on all those cylinders consistently — I would say skip doing a master’s degree in real estate altogether (even such long standing industry gold standards as MIT or the NYU RE program).
These highly -focused degrees are not VIP Passes and require consistent sweat equity from start to finish (and even well after you graduate in the form of keeping connected to your alumni social network and attending their regular industry -wide events, and generally staying involved in the alumni community) in order to maximize their full potential and deliver the desired career results over the long term. Starting any msre/d program with this extremely sobering reality in mind will give you the absolute best chance of success.
Hey, thanks for this post. How strong is the Indian alumni network from the NYU MSRE program, in NYU (to your knowledge)? In terms of visa sponsorship and stuff, for a non-US citizen (Indian citizen)
Fantastic reply, this pretty much summarizes everything I needed to know about the Schack MSRE program.
Has anyone heard back from MIT yet? I read on threats from previous years that they send snail mail? Is that true?
My situation (international): 1. Columbia - accepted 2. Harvard - rejected 3. MIT - waiting
Nothing yet from my end, I hope not snail mail lol
Any idea when the decisions are released?
Edit: looks like last year's results were given by the 6th
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Anyone hear from MIT yet?
Nothing yet, I have seen decisioms as late as March 16th some years
Emailed MIT admissions office few days ago and they said they will send out the descisions in mid or late March. I already accepted by Cornell and NYU but rejected by Harvard.
Thanks for the heads up
MIT's out, check your inboxes
Applied to MIT only and just heard that I got in. Thrilled, happy to discuss.
Congrats! I got rejected by MIT so I'm heading to Cornell.
Stats?
Here you go.
University/Major/GPA - State School/ Accounting and Finance /Sub 3.0 GMAT - mid 600s W/E - Real Estate Private Equity associate, 5 years. International Background.
School Status: MIT - rejected Harvard MDes - rejected Columbia - waitlist Cornell - Accepted NYU - Accepted USC - Accepted
do you mind sharing your stats?
Just heard from MIT. Got in and headed to Boston this fall.
do you mind sharing your stats/what you’re looking to get out of the program?
Seems serendipitous now that I applied to grad school given the potential risk of unemployment and downturn that may sweep the industry. Just got word from Columbia that they're pushing the start date back to the fall. USC is considering online classes for the summer. With that, how are others looking to play this? I have little interest in joining a one year program and such a small window of opportunity to network only to end up doing the program online
Yeah, i definitely feel lucky now that there is that opportunity to go back to school with everything that is going on in the market. The compressed one year program doesn't bother me too much, but switching to online is something i don't want to do either defeats the purpose of why many on here get MREDs or MSREs.
Is there any point in taking a FT MBA/MSRED if your goal is to work in Asia? I'm just weighing the cost and the network gained (which most likely would be US-focused) and it just seems immensely expensive.
Depends where. I worked in Singapore for a while. Commonwealth schools have a lot of clout in SG, Malaysia, HK. If you're looking at China, there's a legitimate love for Californian schools such as Berkeley as it's a dream for many to send their kids there.
Got accepted to both Cornell Baker Real estate program and the Columbia MSRED. Can make up my mind on which program to attend. Any thoughts?
Do you want to be in NY and do a Summer-Spring then out? Or would you rather have a two year comprehensive outside of NY. I think those are the biggest questions.
I am an international student and may need to return to my country after the program if I can't secure a work visa. The Cornell curriculum is by far more impressive with its two year program, specialization, treks, and constant speakers that come in. However the Cornell brand is less impressive in my home country and I and worried that the tiny class in Cornell (25-40 students) won't give me enough of a network. The Columbia program has a much larger class (100-120 students) and hence a bigger alumni network. The brand is also far more impressive in my country. However I fear the Columbia program might be far too rushed. Basically my dilemma is Cornell with its superior academic curriculum vs Columbia with a superior brand and alumni network. No clue what to do .
Anybody apply for the 3rd round at Cornell? (March 1st deadline) For those that applied during earlier rounds, about how long did it take for you to hear back?
I'm in at University of Miami MRED+U program with $$ and NYU MSRED. Would be very happy at either, but am also very interested in Cornell...just didn't really consider it until late January
Went to Miami for UG and am pretty impressed by the curriculum and opportunities for networking although it's mostly So. Florida focused. The architecture program is one of the best in the country and it seems that they leverage that reputation to get some big time developers/urban planners/etc. in to speak and network. The advisory board also has some pretty impressive people on it. There are some NY/Miami firms that recruit, but working in development in Miami by itself wouldn't be too bad IMO. Anyways, just thought I'd bring it up because nobody on here ever seems to mention it.
3.3 GPA 310 GRE W/E -- 3 years FP&A at a F500 (non RE) company, 2 years in risk management at a major developer/REIT
Cornell got back to me in about 1.5 Months or so or so
Found out yesterday - in at Cornell with aid. Leaning towards accepting
hi guys,
I have also been admitted to the MIT MSRED Program. Will be heading to Boston this fall. Looking forward to connecting with everyone. I have also received admit from Cornell 1Y MBA with $$ but probably not accepting the offer
Anyone admitted in Columbia? Do you think the semester will really start in September?
Admissions sent out a letter stating that it would start in September, the fall term concluding the program at the end of Summer 2021.
Curious if anyone officially committed to Columbia?
Columbia was originally my #1 choice, however after speaking to many people both alumni and those in the program currently, I feel as though it's not the best choice. I've committed to USC
What made you feel Columbia isn't the best choice?
Has anyone else applied to Johns Hopkins and Georgetown this cycle? I'm applying to a mix of MBAs and MSREs.
For those accepted for programs starting this fall, has anyone had any further communication from programs? Any word on delayed or online classes to start? What is your game plan if so?
good question. I would like to know also.
Of the programs I applied to, both Berkeley and Columbia have pushed back to the fall and have provided no updates otherwise. USC is going online the first half of summer (through early July). CA is in good shape on the covid front, so classes may be back on campus in the fall
How long did it take you to hear back from Berkeley?
Going online for any period of time in a one year program is a major issue. Time is short as it is to make the most of the campus and the networking opportunities. Doing a few weeks online is almost a deal breaker .
With all this uncertainty, I think I will be better served going the MBA route than MSRE(D). Good luck to everyone waiting to hear back!
Have you already been accepted to an MBA program? With international students unlikely to attend by fall, biz schools are in disarray. Seems an opportune time to apply
I fortunately visited all the MSRE/MBA programs that I applied to before all this stuff went down.
I'm in at UNC, Gtown, Wiscy, and a few others (Georgia State, etc.). I really only applied to MBAs with strong RE programs.
Did anyone get accepted to an MSRED with no financial aid only to request aid due the COVID and get anything?
I got admitted to MIT MSRED without any aid. Subsequently was awarded substantial scholarships. However, it may be because of admitted students deciding not to attend and freeing up of some scholarship amount.
Given that NYU does not require GMAT scores for applications to their MSRE program, does anyone know how much, if at all, they will ding you if you apply without a GMAT score? What is the benefit to have taken it and submit a score vs. applying without?
Call admissions and ask.
If you have an otherwise good profile for admission, I don't think they 'ding' you at all. Generally, when a school makes GMAT optional it means it can be used as way to make up for a low GPA or lack of relevant work experience.
Have any of you who have applied and had plans to enroll considered backing out fully and waiting indefinitely before taking on school?
Are you finding in some ways, that staying at your job might be better for you than taking on school?
Obviously the economy has slowed down, but I see school as an investment and a means to help make the career moves I've been unable to do currently. The economy WILL recover, but** I can't predict what the job market will be like at or near the end of the MSRE/D program.** Or, even for the matter what ease could there be with getting an internship during school, say by next spring?
I got accepted into Georgetown and I’ve chosen to decline my offer. I planned on resigning from my job and moving to DC.
However, I do not feel comfortable resigning from a steady job and taking on debt during these uncertain times. I’m going to reapply to programs next year and in the meantime continue networking and hope that leads to a new position.
Applying this fall for spring ‘21 admission. Started studying for the GRE last week and have scheduled my test for late July. Sub 3.0 GPA but hoping my GRE score, essays and five years w/e in commercial construction project management can make up for the GPA.
I've been wait listed by my dream msred program for second round waitlist. I already accepted another program (same tier: Ivy) but what I'd like to know is that is it normal practice for the program to have 2 rounds of waitlist? Or is it just because they're not sure that they can fill the class during the pandemic? and is this mean that I still have a chance to be accepted to my dream school?
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Anyone who is currently enrolled this year, care to share about their experience so far? I've heard most of the programs are still online for the most part with plans for live instruction to resume maybe in late spring or summer of next year.
Interested as well.
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