PTO in RE

What is your PTO in RE?

Example of my situation:

Position: Analyst
Field: Development
PTO: 10 days

If you have any other interesting set up, like unlimited non-paid time off, let us know. If there are any other interesting perks you have, that would be cool too.

 
thhddd:
cover your closing cost for 1st home purchase

First time I have ever heard that- that is a really cool perk!

“The three most harmful addictions are heroin, carbohydrates, and a monthly salary.” - Nassim Taleb
 

Companies with grade school attendance policies like these make me cringe.

I'm at work when I want to be and take off when I want to take off. No one keeps track of it because they have better things to do and trust me as a professional not to abuse it.

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 

Unlimited PTO policy doesn’t work at big company either, say Netflix

When you have unlimited PTO, people end up taking less days off. But when you have defined benefit such as 18 weeks maternity leave, everybody takes 18 weeks off, and btw 18 weeks maternity are standard at pretty much all banks now, and some tech companies offer you 6-months maternity leave

 
picklemonkey:
What's the headcount at your company?

When I worked for a smaller firm this was the policy. As the company grows and HR policies need to be put in place this type of system doesn't work as people get butt hurt when they see coworkers taking more time than you are.

  1. I agree with you 100% though on the small vs. big divide.
Commercial Real Estate Developer
 
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100+. We are segmented. Investment/acquisitions teams are afforded more leeway.

An accountant doesn't network, read applicable literature, etc... once they leave the office. Investment guys work tirelessly to perfect their craft and make sure they're up to speed on the current state of markets. As such, if I'm in cabo for a a few days and don't take PTO it's prob cause i.) I will respond to emails/continue speaking with my peers and ii.) I've put in an an uncountable amount of hours of "extracurricular activities" so you're damn right I'm keeping those PTO hours for when i actually want to (can) disconnect).

Just the culture here... Maybe that ain't right but whatever.

 

Agree with this. Even though I'm at a large company with formal HR policies, no one actually gives a shit how much you take off as long as you deliver and get your work done. I have no idea how many "formal" days I have. I just email my boss when I have a trip coming up and let him know I'll be out of pocket. I've been at my current job for about 9 months and I think I've taken close to two weeks already. I will never again work for a company that actually tracks your time - did for my first job and that experience was a joke. Makes you feel like a child. Excuse me sir can I go on vacation please! Fuck that lol.

 

I’m on production, so both zero and as many as I want is really how it goes for PTO. I send an email to my boss, say I’m out from x to y, and we go from there to figure things out. I might not get paid on something that happens then, but I would have been following anything that I would be paid on all the way to the finish line.

 

Agreed - seems legit. I'd imagine if I was in a similar situation I'd be doing a lot of 3-4 day weekend trips.

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I would say that is true for some associates, but mostly after associate. When you are compensated in large part by promote, or when you have skin in the game alongside others in the firm, PTO is silly because you are invested and the business results impact you. You can write your own checks as far as PTO is concerned because the assumption is that you are value add. Until we can be value add (to the degree above), us juniors rely on PTO to maintain sanity.

EDIT: Are you making the argument that you do not think PTO is worth taking because you might miss an opportunity?

 

Officially I have 10 PTO which is ludicrous. Unofficially, I take like 20-25 but I'm basically always on call. Spent all Christmas even and Christmas day working on an RFP some dickhead made due the 28th.

Just to echo what most others here have said, after a certain point with all the extra crap if someone ever tried to enforce 10 days on me I'd lose my shit.

I actually find it a bit of a turnoff when hiring companies talk about it now, I'm a big boy and get my work done. That's what you should expect from everyone regardless of their level. I tell my analyst all the time I don't care if it takes you 20 hours or 120 hours a week just get your work done.

 

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Commercial Real Estate Developer
 

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