Like the title says I attend a Top US MBA Program and 25% of the cohort got caught cheating, with witnesses on a midterm exam. The University decided that if the cheaters were punished, then it would hurt the "Social Dynamic" of the cohort. Adding another layer of context, all of the students caught cheating are international students from the same country and appears to be a consistent portion of the cohort year over year.
The no punishment decision was decided at the business school level, however according to the Academic Integrity Policy of the university, this severity of cheating at minimum would warrant a one semester suspension. This would then cause the students to lose their visas to be in the US.
One angle is to elevate the matter outside of the business school and bring it to the Graduate or University Level.
Obviously the other 75% of the cohort is pissed. Does anyone have suggestions on how to elevate this without completely devaluing this universities MBA Program?
Chinese students?
very first question I said to myself after reading the OP lol
the "if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'" mentality is very real with the Chinese students in UG and bschool
Hello Chinese students in America my old friend.....
What school?
Guessing NYU or Columbia.
Some school that is so cucked to Chinese money they CANNOT afford to piss off students there.
Well you have just been proved wrong that these students in question are from China...
I go to Columbia and have heard nothing about this so don't think it's us. Midterms were a while ago anyway.
Theyre actually from India, but I have heard about issues elsewhere.
This is absurd since grades don't matter at MBA programs anyway, particularly second year. If it was first years who were cheating, the only reason I can really imagine people being pissed is if it's about trying to get second-year scholarship money, in which case the program could just say to all the cheaters "we won't suspend you for X, Y, or Z reason but you aren't eligible for any scholarships."
I really don't understand why someone would cheat in a top MBA program... the grades are meaningless and many M7 schools even have grade non-disclosure (do all of them have that?)
I should've said it in the original post but this would be First Year, First Semester.
Build a wall. A Chinese wall.
Foreign students would cheat in my program too....very sad....especially because nothing we did was all that difficult.
I remember someone cheated in my Junior year course. I didn't do anything. On the one hand I kinda regret it, but on the otherhand if they are incompetent, it will all even out.
sucks to suck lmfao, the "75%"--or more like the bottom 5% of that 75%--must be complete garbage to fret about MBA grades lmao
Do grades even matter? Who cares
I am dying to know which school
Lmao about the top MBA program part. A top MBA program would not have students from the same country of origin to constitute 25% of a cohort. Also this is probably a school without GND, so must be something out of M7.
Leak it to Bari Weiss or the WSJ
What top MBA program has >=25% of its cohort from a country that's not the USA?
Thinking something like UNC that has a lot of internationals. So a “top” MBA by generous standards (Top 25, not 15)
UNC is ~25% international, so no chance that it is 25% from any one non US country.
In fact, it actually looks like top US MBA programs are more international, not less, than the lowerw ranked US MBA programs, so this is probably a non US program?
Edit: n/m OP said US MBA
I went to UVa, a school that famously had a 0 tolerance policy --- they used to. 0 tolerance meaning you can get suspended for 1-2 semesters or worse.
A lot of people cheated in a corporate strategy class (mostly Americans), but the professor decided to let it go.
Tbh, it's kind of a gray area. Good people make mistakes. Meanwhile, it was unjustice to all of us who didn't cheat because it was a curve-graded class.
Unless they fucked the curve you should worry about yourself
As a 1st gen immigrant who grew up in the states since I was 1yrs old (and I rarely play this card), it's absolutely shameful to watch the foreign admit students collude together in every exam and cheat en masse. Like it was so blatant and egregious where I went to college and know that others had the same experience. One time I had a calc professor (I was at an enormous non-target state school for context) make everyone pass up their exam blue books right before administering the test. Literally every foreign student got caught and penalized for cheating that day.
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