Can Anyone Critique my College List
I'm planning to major in finance or economics and study CS as a second major. After undergrad, I'd like to do financial engineering in grad school and become a quant. I realize that this forum doesn't take kindly to high schoolers, but I think my aspirations are fairly serious. I've learned a fair amount about financial engineering through an internship I had at a financial analytics company. From what I know, it seems like a good fit career wise, as it combines my interests in finance, math, and CS.
Anyway, I'm looking for colleges that are good at finance and/or CS with fairly strong undergrad recruiting. Although I'd prefer to major in finance, I'd be fine studying econ at school with great OCR. I have too many colleges at the moment however, so I'd appreciate advice on which ones I should drop. I'm not looking for admissions chances, I'd just like to know which schools are good targets.
Also, I'm planning to apply ED to Carnegie Mellon for economics or finance. I'll probably apply for economics because the business program is pretty competitive. It'd be great if you could tell me your thoughts on that as well.
Carnegie Mellon
UMichigan
UIllinois
UChicago
Georgia Tech.
Georgetown
Wash U.
NYU
Brown
Johns Hopkins
UC Berkley
UCLA
UCSD
Boston College
U. of Richmond
Emory
no caltech or MIT?
I don't think my stats are even good enough for those schools. My SAT is decent (2300+) and I've taken over 13 AP exam, but my GPA is not that high. If you're interested however, I can send my complete profile in a private message.
Your college list is soo broad, mind categorizing for us reach schools, back up, and obviously schools you think you have a shot at. Might as well put Northwestern on your list as its likely similar difficulty/easiness of getting in as Wash U St Louis.
Sure
High Reach: Johns Hopkins, Brown, Georgetown, UChicago Lower Reach: Carnegie Mellon, NYU, Emory, Wash U. Match: UMichigan, UCLA, Boston College, U. Richmond Low Match: UIllinois, UCSD, Georgia Tech
don't get too dismayed about your gpa if your SATs and APs are in fact rock solid. do you have leadership, community service, awards/recognition, and all that other jazz?
i'd recommend ivies, stanford, mit, duke, chicago, northwestern, nyu, georgetown. those are all good schools. you can throw in williams/amherst/middlebury if you don't mind the LAC route. caltech is for a very specific type of person, tread carefully. for publics i'd go with umich, berkeley, uiuc, uva.
at any of these schools you can major in computer science and economics and do what you want afterwards.
don't sell yourself short, roll the dice and see what happens.
I have a good number of awards and I've done many internships. But while I am the president of my school's economics club, my leadership is a bit lacking IMO.
president of a club is good. i think you can reach higher than you're reaching, from what you've said it seems like you'd have decent a shot at most of the schools i mentioned
I agree with Going Concern. It's not to say your in any way a shoe in, but I think you have a shot at MIT, etc. Plus I think those technical schools will weight your test scores more - and you said you have good SATs
Honestly if I could do it over again I would have applied to (if I wanted to go banking) all the top 20 and a few solid financial safeties (state flagship / good merit schools). If you have a 2300+ and a decent GPA / ec's, just do that. It will save a lot of "what-if's" in the future.
This looks more like a "Google search top 20 schools, copy and paste" list, rather than a personal college list.
Berkeley is a solid school. Its underrated on those newsweek bullshit rankings due to biased towards private but anyone from California will tell you their education is top notch comparable to Stanford. But obviously Stanford offers the bigger name, and network.
If your list includes Wash U, Michigan, and Georgetown, you should include Notre Dame. It's a top 20 school, better than many on your list, and you have a better chance of going bulge bracket at ND than most of the schools on your list (notice I said most, over half, not all). They've really been doing a great job with recruiting lately and have been sending more people BB than a lot of comparable schools in the past few years.
With a list that long you might as well throw Stanford, Cal Tech, and MIT on the list, especially since you seem like a classic STEM kid. Also Rice has good engineering programs if you want to go that route. Houston blows though (Yes, I have lived there before texas people jump on my ass).
Being from California, UC wise, I'd say only Berkeley is worth going to these days especially if you want to do quant. Its not that fun of a school unless you are trying to occupy wall street from 3000 miles away or are really into asian chicks.
Also, 13 APs? Did you go to a public school?
Yeah, I agree, you should shoot for some more top level schools on your list like MIT, CalTech, Stanford. Also, remove Johns Hopkins, Richmond, maybe like Emory or GTech if you really want to? Your list is not to long where you should think you must cut some schools, unless application fees are a problem. Also, I sent you a PM.
Good Luck
Thanks for all the responses. After thinking about it, I'm going to add a few more reaches and remove U. Richmond and Emory. One thing I'm curious about however is what matters more for a prospective quant: a strong engineering education, or a strong background in finance? In other words, to get good quant jobs, and get into good MFE programs, is it better to attend a good business school or a good engineering school? I want to be at a school that's good in both areas, but I'd still like some opinions.
for the quant path you're better off becoming well versed in math/statistics/computer science rather than going to business school. basic finance and econ is not hard, you can just teach yourself if you can't dual. that said if you do engineering only things like electrical engineering will really make full use of math/cs and such. or you could do something like physics.
UPDATE: I got accepted ED to Carnegie Mellon (College of Science - Math) and will be going there next fall. Thanks to everyone here for their advice.
Congrats on CMU, man. It seems like a pretty good fit for what you're looking to do.
Are you going to go the Comp. Finance route? Statistics?
I really want to major in Comp. Finance, but I know how competitive the program is. I'm going to apply starting my freshman year instead of sophomore year, like most candidates. That way, I'll have as many chances as possible to apply for the major. If I can't get into comp. finance, I'll probably study Operations Research and Business and minor in comp. finance.
2300+ is way better than decent, smug asshole.
2300+ is way better than decent, smug asshole.
2300+ is way better than decent, smug asshole.
@PEVAN, Way to troll.
@PEVAN Way to troll.
@PEVAN Way to troll.
lol i didnt know what finance was until this year, go to a non target, networked my way to an sa s&t offer at BB. wtf are these kids on bookroids? get some pussy kid!
a part of me agrees with the idea of this 100%, and the other part thinks the delivery could have been more effective
Edit: wow i'm an idiot and didn't read all the comments. Have fun in college! :)
I'm a finance major at MIT with heavy CS background. Definitely consider applying here - you're pretty qualified from what i can tell. Although MIT's more known for CS than finance, it's one of few schools where undergrads can take classes taught by Nobel Laureates (and they're actually present to teach/mentor, unlike Krugman who taught 1 week in the entire term at Harvard). This semester, i'm taking a finance class taught by Robert Merton of the Black-Scholes-Merton formula. A ton of undergrads end up going into quants since a lot of quants teams hire from MIT. Hope that entices you to at least apply and see.. :)
@Institvte, Taking a class taught by Robert Merton sounds incredible! I knew he was at Sloan, but I didn't know that he taught undergraduates. I'm actually hoping to attend MIT for grad school because Sloan has (arguably) the best quant-finance faculty. What finance class are you taking with Merton btw?
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