Georgetown (Non-MSB) vs. Notre Dame (Non-Mendoza)

Grateful to have these two choices, but having trouble making a decision. Fully pay for both, and realized after applying that I'm interested in working on Wall Street. I have an exceptionally strong math background (Calc 2,3 and AIME qualifier) and have an interest in math-heavy economics/finance. In terms of the schools above, I have visited both and loved Notre Dame and its culture/spirit. On the other hand, I loved Gtown's location and campus but didn't seem to fit in as well with the other admitted students/campus culture. I have also heard that applying to transfer into Mendoza is simply a formality while transferring into McDonough is certainly no guarantee. Then again, I also realize that Gtown is much better represented in NYC, and has much better placement. Any advice on my decision?


Thanks

 

Also an ND senior here going to an EB next year (sup classmate). I echo everything said above. Extremely biased, but I wouldn't go anywhere else. I've written out a ton more about the pros and cons of ND in this thread:

https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/school/junior-looking-for-college…

I'm sure Georgetown has a great alumni network, but I truly believe that ND's network is like no other in the world. For some reason, most ND grads will go to extreme lengths to help younger alum / current students. Georgetown may have better representation in NY, but ND has senior people at every major bank & PE firm on the street. For reference, we send 10+ people per year to GS IBD, we've already had 4 sophomores sign with EVR this year (and EVR's process is only half over), and 3 of the 6 corp PE associate seats at BX went to ND grads this year.

 

Also, I did really enjoy Georgetown's campus and location.  It is a great place to be.  However, you can only get the undergraduate campus experience once.  Working in finance you will have plenty of opportunities to live in metropolitan areas, but you will not have a chance to live in a dorm community or go to ND football games every week in the fall.  

 

Clearly, at Gtown rn, so a bit biased. I got a top offer (PE) and have seen the benefits of recruiting from Gtown. As for the school, it's pretty mediocre from an academics perspective. I would recommend not doing the MSB and learning helpful stuff. I think going to business school for undergrad is not required for recruiting. As per school life, I have a couple of friends at ND, and I'd say the social life is the same at both places, minus having real sports at Gtown.

 

Congrats on the acceptances—had an very similar profile pre-undergrad and went to one of these schools. I think you'll get great looks from both places.

Georgetown probably has more people in NYC finance (IB/PE/HF) and probably better placement across all EBs and BBs. Heavy placement into BX, WP, etc. out of undergrad as well. I think placement was historically really strong (think like 2010 - 2016), so the network beyond breaking into banking itself is very strong.

ND kids do really well and place really well into CVP, EVR, GS, BAML (among others), but probably have fewer folks (at least in NYC) and I see fewer of them at top MFs and way less at top HFs after banking/PE stints, respectively (although the kids who are great place well for obvious reasons). For what it's worth, the people that make it there are really impressive. I would say the average ND kid seems a little stronger than the average Georgetown kid, but the top talent at these schools is really talented. Can't go wrong either place, really.

With regards to the non-MSB/Mendoza point, I think you do have better downside protection in terms of getting into IB/PE from undergraduate business schools (i.e., you'll find a job in banking if you do the requisite prep/join the right clubs/have a reasonable GPA). That being said, undergrad business school sucks (even though both MSB and Mendoza guarantee a great job). Even something like the SFS at Georgetown gives you really good upside in terms and can get you a IB job out of undergrad. Any quantitative field of study at both schools (math + econ + cs, etc.) will give you really good looks at top places as well, as long as you have a pretty high GPA and the right clubs/internships. I think immediate buyside gigs out of undergrad are hard to obtain (specifically buyout gigs since credit and RE aren't that hard)—MSB and Mendoza both do pretty well here (albeit it's hard if you're not well-connected), but not sure on the other schools at Georgetown and ND.

Culturally, probably for you to decide. Both schools are a lot of fun, and there are great people everywhere. 

 

I’m starting my SA role in a few months after recruiting from the MSB. If I was to do it all over again I’d definitely still choose Georgetown but I’d be in the college and just do a STEM field. MSB is kinda a joke and I am minoring in STEM fields so I can feel like I actually learned something. Georgetown network is far superior to ND imo. Have friends that went to ND and were asking me to hook them up with intros.

 

Lol your friends at ND are just losers then. ND is a target for every BB and EB on the street. We also have strong presence at every MFPE shop except maybe Apollo and CD&R

 

Not trying to trash the school at all, just saying what happened to me. Chill homie…

 

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