Please tell me you're not actually Canadian? Kitchener is the asshole of the country. However, seriously, Queens is a much better program, much better recruited and... our neighbors stateside have actually heard of it. And to be fair, the people I know in Laurier BBA co-op have some pretty embarassing internships... but that's just my 2 cents. Cheers.
"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns or dollars."
If you had to choose b/w those two, go with Queen's. Though, not to take anything away from Laurier's co-op program. One really big advantage they have over the other schools is that while Ivey, Queen's, McGill, etc. students have to fight for the summer internships. Co-ops can run during the winter term, and since the only other guy in town that does winter-work terms is Waterloo, there is less competition then.
Another thing one can consider - go to Laurier, rock the program vs. your peers, get some internships under your belt, then apply to Ivey's 2-yr concentrated HBA program.
Considering you already have Queen's, I think it's easier to go with that. But if you had say Laurier, Schulich and UoT, I'd do what I stated above. Getting into Ivey after 2 yrs in univ, is easier than through their AEO program.
I would also recommend that when your first two years are done, wherever you go, consider applying for HBA at Ivey. It's worth it for the consulting/finance opps more or less unrivaled up north. I could be biased though... being a new Ivey HBA (year 1) transfer myself.... still OCR, OCR, O...C....R
"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns or dollars."
I would also recommend that when your first two years are done, wherever you go, consider applying for HBA at Ivey. It's worth it for the consulting/finance opps more or less unrivaled up north. I could be biased though... being a new Ivey HBA (year 1) transfer myself.... still OCR, OCR, O...C....R
And you finally settled for entrepreneurship- 'O...C...R' seemed to have worked out quite well for you.
I would also recommend that when your first two years are done, wherever you go, consider applying for HBA at Ivey. It's worth it for the consulting/finance opps more or less unrivaled up north. I could be biased though... being a new Ivey HBA (year 1) transfer myself.... still OCR, OCR, O...C....R
And you finally settled for entrepreneurship- 'O...C...R' seemed to have worked out quite well for you.
I would also recommend that when your first two years are done, wherever you go, consider applying for HBA at Ivey. It's worth it for the consulting/finance opps more or less unrivaled up north. I could be biased though... being a new Ivey HBA (year 1) transfer myself.... still OCR, OCR, O...C....R
And you finally settled for entrepreneurship- 'O...C...R' seemed to have worked out quite well for you.
It served its purpose: 2 IBD internships, 1 BB S&T, 1 Corp Dev and a FT Consulting offer I turned down. I think it's sad you think entrepreneurship is "settling" but unlike 2 years ago when this was posted, I'm a little beyond arguments and rankings and "GS v. MS v. Barclays" at this point in my life. Good luck with your future endeavours.
"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns or dollars."
If you're transferring to Ivey regardless of whether you choose Queens or Laurier, then I actually think going to Laurier makes more sense (no I'm not a Laurier alumni, but I am one of the other two). It boils down to the co-op again. Being in Queens in year 1 and year 2 isn't going to land you at Goldman or anything. You might be able to cold call some alumni or something, but that's it. Laurier you have the co-op program to help you out.
Then, regardless of where you were doesn't make a rat's ass difference once you're at Ivey.
Do you guys think it would be difficult transferring from Laurier to Ivey. The reason why I didn't apply to Ivey straight out of highschool because I didn't find the "2 years study whatever you want" attractive.
If you get a good GPA at Laurier or Queen's, you can transfer, so if you want to transfer and you're fixated on that, you might want to choose the school where you can get more involved with the community and get a higher GPA.
^ Agreed with the above. Though from what I've seen, I'm not sure if it's really worth transferring from Queens to Ivey if you're already in Queen's commerce program. I can't recall their cost structure, but it'll be like an additional $8000-$10000 per year; Ivey's tuition is roughly $20,000/yr including case study binders and etc.
I would only recommend Laurier for their double degrees. A lot of the people in the double degree don't want to go into iBanking (if thats what you want to do) so you are largely competing with single degree students. Certain recruiters have a set number of people they are assigned to recruit and being a top dog as a double degree student you shine among other stars. I know people working at BB banks through the co-op system so the opportunities are there if you work hard towards them.
Now about Queen's U.. they're good, very good. You will have prestige and better alumni, which can go a long way.
University is only what YOU make of it, and YOU carry the reputation of the university. For instance, if a quarter of a graduating class gets placed at GS or MS for consecutive years, the university can potentially skyrocket in their prestige. Just remember that while there is no substitute for grades, only a strong sophomore or junior internship will set the road for your future in finance (imo).
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Queen's without a doubt.
Please tell me you're not actually Canadian? Kitchener is the asshole of the country. However, seriously, Queens is a much better program, much better recruited and... our neighbors stateside have actually heard of it. And to be fair, the people I know in Laurier BBA co-op have some pretty embarassing internships... but that's just my 2 cents. Cheers.
P.S. did you really need to post this question on multiple forums?
Forget about prestige - Queen's commerce is a better program, at a better school, with better professors, and a better student body.
Who cares about Laurier's co-op program?
If you had to choose b/w those two, go with Queen's. Though, not to take anything away from Laurier's co-op program. One really big advantage they have over the other schools is that while Ivey, Queen's, McGill, etc. students have to fight for the summer internships. Co-ops can run during the winter term, and since the only other guy in town that does winter-work terms is Waterloo, there is less competition then.
Another thing one can consider - go to Laurier, rock the program vs. your peers, get some internships under your belt, then apply to Ivey's 2-yr concentrated HBA program.
Considering you already have Queen's, I think it's easier to go with that. But if you had say Laurier, Schulich and UoT, I'd do what I stated above. Getting into Ivey after 2 yrs in univ, is easier than through their AEO program.
I was actually considering transferring over to Ivey in my third year If i felt finance was the area i wanted to go in
I would also recommend that when your first two years are done, wherever you go, consider applying for HBA at Ivey. It's worth it for the consulting/finance opps more or less unrivaled up north. I could be biased though... being a new Ivey HBA (year 1) transfer myself.... still OCR, OCR, O...C....R
And you finally settled for entrepreneurship- 'O...C...R' seemed to have worked out quite well for you.
It served its purpose: 2 IBD internships, 1 BB S&T, 1 Corp Dev and a FT Consulting offer I turned down. I think it's sad you think entrepreneurship is "settling" but unlike 2 years ago when this was posted, I'm a little beyond arguments and rankings and "GS v. MS v. Barclays" at this point in my life. Good luck with your future endeavours.
If you're transferring to Ivey regardless of whether you choose Queens or Laurier, then I actually think going to Laurier makes more sense (no I'm not a Laurier alumni, but I am one of the other two). It boils down to the co-op again. Being in Queens in year 1 and year 2 isn't going to land you at Goldman or anything. You might be able to cold call some alumni or something, but that's it. Laurier you have the co-op program to help you out.
Then, regardless of where you were doesn't make a rat's ass difference once you're at Ivey.
Do you guys think it would be difficult transferring from Laurier to Ivey. The reason why I didn't apply to Ivey straight out of highschool because I didn't find the "2 years study whatever you want" attractive.
Queen's without a doubt.
Yeah, easily Queen's.
If you get a good GPA at Laurier or Queen's, you can transfer, so if you want to transfer and you're fixated on that, you might want to choose the school where you can get more involved with the community and get a higher GPA.
^ Agreed with the above. Though from what I've seen, I'm not sure if it's really worth transferring from Queens to Ivey if you're already in Queen's commerce program. I can't recall their cost structure, but it'll be like an additional $8000-$10000 per year; Ivey's tuition is roughly $20,000/yr including case study binders and etc.
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I would only recommend Laurier for their double degrees. A lot of the people in the double degree don't want to go into iBanking (if thats what you want to do) so you are largely competing with single degree students. Certain recruiters have a set number of people they are assigned to recruit and being a top dog as a double degree student you shine among other stars. I know people working at BB banks through the co-op system so the opportunities are there if you work hard towards them.
Now about Queen's U.. they're good, very good. You will have prestige and better alumni, which can go a long way.
University is only what YOU make of it, and YOU carry the reputation of the university. For instance, if a quarter of a graduating class gets placed at GS or MS for consecutive years, the university can potentially skyrocket in their prestige. Just remember that while there is no substitute for grades, only a strong sophomore or junior internship will set the road for your future in finance (imo).
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