Social engineering at HBS

One of the main problems is that women often discriminate against other women in the workforce. @"Edmundo Braverman" posted about how attractive women are less likely than ugly women to get interviews because most HR people are women. All types of women are less likely than men to get interviews when they include pictures. http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/blog/ugly-women-land-more-interviews

Another problem is that BOTH men and women prefer male bosses. http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/27/women-boss-success-forbes-woman-leader…

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-44942994/new-study-do-men-make-b…

campusreformDOTorg/blog/?ID=5028

Fifteen universities worldwide — including Yale University, Brown University, and Pennsylvania State University — will offer college credit to students who “write feminist thinking” into Wikipedia.

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I don't understand how anyone can take schools that tolerate this seriously.

Ms. Frances Frei's looks explain a lot :D

Apparently Harvard is not doing very well in terms of gender pay gap. 2012 female graduates from the HBS MBA program made less that 90% what male graduates make. 2012 Booth MBA female graduates made over 99% of what male graduates make, and 2012 female MBA graduates from UT made MORE than male graduates.

http://images.businessweek.com/slideshows/2012-12-11/mba-gender-pay-gap…

Pretty awful in my opinion. I think Harvard University as a whole is overreacting to the larry summers incident, and sadly this type of PC liberal social engineering is dripping down to the b-school.

I think we all agree that women should not be discriminated against in any form or fashion. A male student who makes sexist comments towards a female classmates should be punished, and HBS or any other school should foster a culture of tolerance.

However, what HBS is doing here goes way beyond that. They are basically trying to force a certain outcome based on what they perceive as "wrongs" of gender relations. For various reasons that can be attributed to thousands of years of biological and social evolution, men in GENERAL want attractive women who are not too smart or aggressive while women want men who are more successful than them and can be stable providers. This is just reality, folks. No amount of feminist propaganda will change this. And yes, this applies to even people at HBS, the cream of the crop.

There is nothing HBS can do to alter this reality. Attempts to do so will incite negative reactions and worsen the atmosphere. There is a reason why so few women have risen to the top of the corporate ladder in business ; it's certainly not because women are not smart or capable or that there is rampant discrimination at the institutional level. Rather, MOST women, even the well-educated ones, deliberately choose to place a primacy on rasing children over career. For every Sheryl Sandberg or Marissa Mayer, there are thousands of women who unfortunately cannot have it all.

I do think HBS can do several things if it wants to become more serious. First, introduce letter grades, so students take academics more seriously. Second, do not accept as many rich internationals who are mostly mediocre and do nothing but party and travel for 2 years. Third, accept older applicants, so they bring a sense of maturity and perspective to the school. When 20% of your class is 24 and under, you are bound to have a lot of immaturity in the classroom. Of course, dean nohria and dean leopold will never implement such changes, so this is all hypothetical.

Precisely, stop accepting those people who will never need to work in their entire lives. These are the people creating the social problems.

Send them to HKS or something like that.

I'd like to party with those Section X guys.

Also: sounds incredibly easy to get laid if you're even a moderately attractive guy (at HBS, obviously). "One night that fall, Ms. Navab, who had laughed off the hand-raising seminar, sat at an Ethiopian restaurant wondering if she had made a bad choice...But she wanted to meet someone soon, maybe at Harvard, which she and other students feared could be their “last chance among cream-of-the-crop-type people,” as she put it."

If your into 5s then yeah I guess lol.

I mean this in all seriousness--it looks like most of the social issues at HBS can be attributed to age. If business schools were dominated by 30-somethings rather than 20-somethings (and HBS is now going after newly minted college grads, which is mind numbing) then many of these issues would be non-existent. Most 30-somethings have moved beyond childish comments, binge drinking, segregation, wealth flashing, etc.