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You sound like a gigantic tool.
You're fine where you are (michigan student). Ross kids party a good amount and the recruiting is rather solid (I think all the BB's except BAML, the nice boutiques, MBB, some cool trading guys).
nah dude this guy is chill as FUCKKKKK
Sorry about your ivy rejections. Not going to an ivy is painful for a lot of state school kids. However, michigan ross is a great school, with solid recruiting among MBB and the bulge bracket banks. Just dominate there, get a great job coming out, and then go to a top MBA after a few years. No need to apply for transfer again.
If you cannot look forward to the education you can potentially get at Michigan, then Do Michigan a favor and just transfer out.
best unintentional troll post of the month
I'm going to assume that you're not a troll and actually answer your questions.
If you're interested in finance after college, the only schools you should seriously consider for transfer would be harvard and wharton, since those 2 are simply head and shoulders above every other school when it comes to finance recruiting. You would be wasting your time and energy on transfer applications to schools like yale/columbia/brown/dartmouth/duke. Spend your time going on BEAST MODE and dominating all your classes. While you're at it, try to get some pussy although michigan girls are notoriously bad for a big 10 school.
My above post addressed the second question.
Ross gets recruiting from all the consulting firms and banks. The only area where you will be left out is buyside and some other "niche" firms that only want harvard or wharton students.
Compared to other big 10 schools, michigan's social scene isn't that great. But Ann Arbor is a cool town, and all my friends who went there loved it.
Thanks for info.
I wouldn't call myself a tool, just an immature high school kid who says dumb shit sometimes.
Ross gets all BB's (except JPM for NYC, only get JPM for Chicago), all elite boutiques (Greenhill/Moelis/Lazard/BX/etc.), all major MM's (Baird, Blair, Jefferies, WF, Piper, Lincoln, etc.), and many more smaller boutiques/MM's as well.
For consulting, they get basically every consulting firm (MBB, Monitor, LEK, Big 4, etc.).
If you are in Ross and can't break in, you probably wouldn't have done any better at an Ivy.
^^^^ I heard BAML doesn't do OCR with Ross. I know it was true for S&T (only two Michigan students, one Ross, one non-Ross were at the superday). I'm assuming it's true for IBD as well.
BAML's recruiting is weird these days. Their OCR listing was only up for a week at my school, and it was posted in mid January while all other BBs had their postings up on December 1.
Why don't you go through at least a semester of school before deciding?
Ross gets very little recruitment from BAML and JPM but I believe the rest of the bulge brackets recruit there. It's boutique recruitment is great and its consulting recruitment is alright. MBB and Deloitte definitely recruit at Ross but other prominent firms like LEK, Parthenon, Dean & Company, Oliver Wyman, Booz & Co., etc. take very few kids or don't go there at all. Recruiting might be better elsewhere but it may not be worth the hassle to transfer if you enjoy the Michigan experience.
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No, there really isn't. First off, this is for BBA. The 40 you cited includes 10 from MBA. Secondly, the yearly recruitment document doesn't provide position. Most people want FO. All the BBs recruit for BO and MO at Ross, and I know GS, MS, Citi, CS, Barclays, DB, do FO as well. I'm pretty sure BAML doesn't do FO, and I honestly don't remember about JP Morgan. 30 is big enough that I assume there would be some FO stuff as well, but there's absolutely no way you could get that from the recruitment guide. You'd need Impact access or something like that to see this, which I assume you don't have.
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Most of the Ross hires at JPM were in back office and technology positions. JPM had a very limited campus recruiting schedule and the only schools on it were Stanford, Dartmouth, Penn, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Berkeley, Williams, and MIT I believe.
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S&T and Equity Research are still considered Front Office but Treasury, Operations, Credit, Private Banking, and Technology are all back office Ben and that's where most of the JPM hires from Ross are going. I would say the majority of Ross students go into Front Office (IBD, S&T, or ER) but there are still a decent amount that go into less than desirable roles. That's basically true with every undergraduate business school besides Wharton since not everyone can get an IBD jobs and so the ones in the bottom 15% of the class have to settle.
I have no idea where all of you are getting the idea BAML of JPM don't come to Ross. I graduated recently and BAML hired the most people out of any BB from Ross. All the BB, lots of MM and elite boutiques all do OCR at Ross. For consulting MBB and a lot of the smaller firms all do OCR. For pure trading, lots of prop trading shops from chicago do OCR.
At least for S&T, all Umich students (LSA+Ross) at the internship superday last year were on the non-targeted schools recruiting days.
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