Which of these masters is better?
I am trying to decide among the following 3 programs:
Bocconi (Italy) - Master in Finance Rotterdam -RSM- (Netherlands) - Master in Finance and Investments St. Gallen (Switzerland) - Master in Banking and Finance
In case it matters, I have a 2:1 in Economics from Bath University (UK), 1 year experience in Thomson-Reuters (London sales) and a 3 month internship at Credit Suisse (London FO). I'm looking to get into Equity Research in Europe.
Which master would you choose?
Go LBS or LSE... maybe Oxbridge.
In which sense is Bocconi a joke? Bad teaching?
Like ESADE in Spain they come up in the rankings but the program is not very challenging, I know alumni from both schools. Plus Bocconi actually gives out free rides for kids with like 700's in the GMAT to boost their average scores.
Bocconi
Bocconi is a joke and Rotterdam is not a great city to live in. St. Gallen has a great placement for Zurich but if you wanna work in London, you should probably stay in the UK for your Masters: LSE, Mphil Finance Cambridge...although who wants to go to London anymore ;-)
Kitco:
Since you know alumni from Bocconi, could you elaborate on the the school's placement success? What kind of positions do alumni get, with which banks, and where?
Thanks
I have been at Bocconi myself (although I didn't graduate from there) and the place almost guarantees you a financial job in Italy. For London it's a mixed bag...
Out of their master it is probably 50% go to Italian companies in financial roles, 20% manage to get to the City, 10% go for PhD, 20% stay unemployed. Not bad, but not too good either considering probably 60-70% aim for the City.
Dacasale,
Thanks for the info:
How are the banking/trading jobs in Italy? I am assuming most are located in Milan/Turin. What firms recruit for Italian finance positions? Also, how is/are the pay/hours?
For finance at least 80% is going to be Milan. You may have the odd Rome job but not very representative. Obviously this is where the main employers are based: regional offices of Goldman, UBS, Nomura, Societe Generale, etc. Mediobanca, Banca IMI (Investment arm of Intesa Sanpaolo) and Unicredito are the big Italian players.
Hours are of course subject to deals but generally lower than London. Pay goes accordingly. Italian is usually required.
Hi there, I would say give it a go for the RSM. The quality of education amongst those three can be at parity.
However, I think Rotterdam is a nice place for students. Also, after graduating you can have opportunity to get into one of the banks or MNCs in the Equity research. Fluency in Dutch gives you an extra point to get a job but most of people in Netherlands are also able to speak fluent English so there would be less difficulty living in Netherlands for English speaker.
I hope it's helpful. All the best for your study.
Here's a link that can help you to find more about RSM and the students : http://businessbecause.com/rsm.htm
Hi there, I would say give it a go for the RSM. The quality of education amongst those three can be at parity.
However, I think Rotterdam is a nice place for students. Also, after graduating you can have opportunity to get into one of the banks or MNCs in the Equity research. Fluency in Dutch gives you an extra point to get a job but most of people in Netherlands are also able to speak fluent English so there would be less difficulty living in Netherlands for English speaker.
I hope it's helpful. All the best for your study.
Here's a link that can help you to find more about RSM and the students : http://businessbecause.com/rsm.htm[/quote]
This guy sounds like like one of the admissions crew.
Poster above calling Bocconi a joke is misinformed, perhaps he is talking about the bachelors degree in english at Bocconi, which is indeed a joke.
Bocconi is the most academically rigorous and theoretical of the three programs. Look at the course structure of the program and you'll see a lot of quantitative stuff, more so than most other euro MScs.
recruiting for all three programs is very good, as along with SSE and HEC, they comprise the "big 5" continental european IB target schools
many Bocconi kids go to London, others stay in Milan.
+1
Italia, baby. You'll get an education and have plenty of fun along the way.
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