Back Office Vs. Front Office Personas

Ive noticed the same thing. The "fun" increases as you move closer to backoffice.

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I had a blast in both. Just one was with wells and other will top shelf

when you say make good money..how much were you talking about? I summered at MS in their Finance division, technically back office, and was given an offer (60k+5). apparently its pretty hard to live decently off that in NYC? I wouldnt really know too much about it from CA but i think I would agree with the fun and better quality of life bit.

I guess more like VP back office salaries not necessarily analyst. JacktheRipper, I think you can fuck bitches in the back office.

truth is you can fuck bitches front or back office, BUT i'd say that thier going to be more attractive more often if your in the front office..

I hate to break it to you guys, but just saying that you work at a bank is usually enough. You think that most women you meet in clubs know that there are even front/back office positions? You think that they even CARE enough to ASK? They already heard the magic words.....finance......bank.....hedge fund......private equity........

::swoon::

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hey atropolation - yeah they have heard of one more magic word - "layoffs"

What's the point? Why not just work somewhere else altogether? Why bother with wall street at all if you're not going to do front office work? If I wanted to do back office style work, I'd rather just move to a cheaper city and work for a corporation.

nothing wrong with back office if that's what you wanna do. and 65k is more than enough to live in nyc comfortably when you're young and don't have a family...

but i agree with juwanna mann...if you know the front office isn't for you, and you're young/still in college/can end up anywhere, why go to wall street?

at major corps, you can live in a smaller fun city that's affordable, never work more than your standard 9-5, make just as much as back office (and maybe rise down the line), and maybe be doing work thats actually interesting. why not aim for that?

I agree...especially if you're good, you can move through the ranks and gain responsibility/projects relatively quickly (vs FO), making serious dough working ~45hours per week compared to your friends in NYC who work as journalists for magazines, PR, marketing, or artists, etc.

New York has to be one of the few cities in America where its inhabitants identify so closely with their chosen profession and that's a problem. Whether you work front office or back office, if you're truly a ladies man, you shouldn't have a problem with women.

Jack the Ripper is right on one thing. I've done the research and I've also moved from back to front office. I never speak ill about either position. As for the women, here are some of the pros of front office chicks: They def look better, but many of them are prude. No question. Comes with the territory. Some of the pros of back office: More often than not, those chicks just want a few dirty martinis, before they're scuffin' their knees. Either one is bangable...

Me personally, I'm more of a, "I only work hard in the office, so that chick is gettin' a salad at best and 3 drinks maximum before I give her the bedroom option ultimatum."

tyrannosaur: If you can't live decently in NYC on 65k, then you're doing something seriously wrong.

$65K in NYC is nothing if you choose to live in the city.

Back Office will seriously limit your options a few years down the line.

I did an internship in middle office at Merrill and I agree that the biggest issue was that I didn't go to the school I go to only to do that. I loved the people, but the work was so mind numbing and un-challenging that I'd never do that again.

Its not necessarily about the money or the prestige (well, thats part of it) but its more of a function that you didn't come all this way for middle/back office - you know you can do better.

I'm working in the BO and it used to bother me everyday. I went to a better school than the vast majority of the people I work with and worked decently hard there. The thought that I could have spent much less on an education and coasted through college to be where I am now is not pleasant. But I'm not sure this has anything to do with prestige. What I do in the BO is incredibly boring and mundane. The idea of a long career there is just awful.

So I still want to do something that equates with FO "prestige." Not for some "prestige aura" or whatever, so I can feel like what I learned in college is useful, so I can actually use my brain, instead of running the same macros, checking the same numbers day after day. I sit by VPs in my office, and it doesn't seem like they've had to think a day in their life. Don't get me wrong, dicking aroung everyday is fun, but I really can't see myself doing this for too long, especially considering the efforts I've put into school up to this point.

btw, that picture of the riddler is perfect. I saw that movie again a few weeks ago, and the riddler/bruce wayne thing is the ultimate BO/FO clash.

I'm a bit confused about all the BO/FO issues. Personally I've always wanted to work in technology in finance because the software and some engineering that's come from it is pretty cool and the issues that it deals with (mostly speed and efficiency) is also interesting. Obviously the company has money to support this kind of research and multimillion projects for it.

So maybe I'm misunderstanding what the BO actually does? I'm not even sure why there're comparisons between the the BO and FO since the work they do is obviously totally different. BO doesn't just do IT support, but there's actual innovation going on in these finance companies for tech. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

And is the BO really paid THAT much less than FO, assuming that you move up vertically in BO?