IB S&T vs Merchant vs Physical
I am a current Sophomore trying to break into S&T and just realized that there are more than just Investment Banks with S&T divisions that trade. Are there any major benefits to starting at a Merchant compared to trying to break into a JPM or a GS?
This mainly regards commodities. Physical shops have training programs where you have to spend a couple of years as a "trainee" before they let you start trading on a desk. Also some of them are pure phsycial while others may deal with paper trading so look into the physical side of the business before you decide for sure. It's very different. Also, with these programs, you are really subject to one commodity (usually) and the pay is less starting out in physical compared to S&T at a bank. However, from people I've spoken to, these programs are great and you learn a ton about that given commodity you are going to trade, and some of the exit opportunities can be to rise at set firm or go to an hf that trades your commodity either as an analyst or PM. However, concerning only trading one commodity, most people aren't a jack of all trades commodity trader, so thats not really an issue. There is also less flexibility with these shops in terms of job location. But its a fun job. As for S&T at a bank, it really depends on what product you are trading and what your long term goals are. I would definitely consider what you want to trade before you enter the internship as a lot of products post Dodd-Frank and just in general with technology have been automated. There is far less of a fundamental edge. Also, if you start at a physical shop you will probably learn a lot more. The benefits to doing S&T is that you can start ASAP on the desk if you get a role as a trader. GS and JPM are great seats if you can land.
In short, the benefits are getting a ton of knowledge about the commodity you are trading and somewhat more, but not all the time as nothing is set in stone, job stability.
Appreciate the feedback, I am mainly focused on trying to break into an Investment bank, but wanted to weigh the options. I am sure if I were applying to a merchant bank, interviews would be more focused on a specific product that they are dealing with, which would change my prep.
oh u meant a merchant bank, i thought u meant a commodities merchant. Yeah, i dont know anything about merchant banks
You are right, I mean't commodities merchants, like BP or Shell, for oil specifically.
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