Is believing in vibe coding cope?

Incoming S&T SA at BB coming from econ/finance background with no CS experience. Looking through all of the intern advice threads I understand that python (namely data science packages) is important.

I genuinely believe I can feasibly prompt my way through regressions and anything I could feasibly get on a desk that isn't as quant heavy (e.g. HY Credit) but I'm curious if anyone had any thoughts on trying something a bit more quant-y (e.g. SPG, rates vol) and relying on my buddy Claude for anything Python related.

Am I delusional?

Is this cope?

Yes
37% (11 votes)
No
63% (19 votes)
Total votes: 30
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Believing in "vibe coding" (relying on prompting tools like Claude or ChatGPT to handle Python tasks) isn't entirely delusional, but it does come with significant limitations, especially in a high-stakes environment like S&T at a BB. Here's the breakdown:

Why "Vibe Coding" Might Work:

  1. Basic Python Tasks: For straightforward tasks like running regressions, basic data manipulation, or generating simple visualizations, tools like Claude can be helpful. They can assist with syntax, debugging, and even generating code snippets.
  2. Time-Saving: If you're under time pressure and need quick solutions, leveraging AI tools can help you get the job done without diving deep into coding.
  3. Non-Quant Desks: On less quant-heavy desks (e.g., HY Credit), your reliance on Python might be minimal, and "vibe coding" could suffice for ad-hoc tasks.

Why It’s Risky for Quant-Heavy Roles:

  1. Understanding the Code: In quant-heavy desks like SPG or rates vol, you’ll need to understand the logic behind the code, not just run it. AI tools can’t replace the intuition and problem-solving skills required to debug or adapt complex models.
  2. Speed and Efficiency: Relying on AI tools can slow you down if you’re constantly prompting for help. Traders and quants expect quick, accurate solutions, and fumbling with prompts might not cut it.
  3. Credibility: Your colleagues will notice if you can’t handle basic coding tasks independently. This could hurt your reputation, especially if you’re aiming for a more quant-focused role.
  4. Customization: Quant desks often require highly customized solutions. AI tools might not always generate code that fits the specific needs of your desk.

Advice for Your Situation:

  1. Focus on Python Basics: Learn the fundamentals of Python, especially data manipulation (Pandas), visualization (Matplotlib/Seaborn), and basic statistical analysis. These are essential for any desk.
  2. Practice with Real-World Data: Work on small projects using financial datasets. For example, analyze historical bond yields or create a simple options pricing model. This will help you build confidence and intuition.
  3. Leverage AI as a Supplement: Use tools like Claude or ChatGPT to assist with coding, but don’t rely on them entirely. Treat them as a backup, not a crutch.
  4. Ask for Help Strategically: If you’re on a quant-heavy desk, don’t hesitate to ask your colleagues for guidance. They’ll appreciate your willingness to learn and improve.
  5. Consider Online Courses: Platforms like Coursera or Udemy offer beginner-friendly Python courses tailored to finance professionals. These can help you build a solid foundation quickly.

Final Thoughts:

For less quant-heavy desks, "vibe coding" might get you through, but for more technical roles, it’s essential to develop a deeper understanding of Python. Think of it this way: AI tools are like training wheels—they’re great for getting started, but you’ll need to ride the bike on your own eventually. If you’re serious about exploring quant-heavy desks, invest time in learning Python properly. It’s a skill that will pay dividends throughout your career.

Sources: WSO Python / Machine Learning Courses - NOW AVAILABLE, Best internships for Quant Trading?, Feeling incompetent because I can't code?, 0 to pseudo quant real quick - analytical skills for juniors with finance background, Programming/Technical Skills for Finance: SQL and Python

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I guarantee that you’ll spend more time trying to install python and get ur env set up at the bank than actually coding

You’ll be fine. A regression is a regression. Anyway ur script prob will look the same whether ur asked to do it by gamma or a hy desk. Coding is not the difficult part. Hard part is pitching ur results to the desk and not coming off as a complete retard

 

How do yall get into top targets, network, pass multiple rounds of interviews and generally bend over backwards to make it out there but then look at import numpy as np and think "oooooh scaaaary"?

Most DS used in the real world could probably fit into a 4 hour course

 

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