market-neutral prop shop - what's your view?

What do you guys think of market-neutral prop shops such as Optiver / Flow Traders? Are they good place to learn about trading or do people there mostly monitor algos & don't develop much of a view?

But all things considered, I suppose working as a trader in Amsterdam does have its perks.

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If you work at Optiver, it means that you mostly trade vol. They do delta plays but its just high frequency stuff. If you want a longer term play on deltas, you shouldn't be looking at sell side at all.

 

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