How to short startups
Been wondering about this for a while.
VC life is all about long only on your highest convictions but also have some pretty high convictions on shitty start-ups that is literally ruining market formation. Is there some secret way to short these that I don’t know about ?
Do you think it’s just easier if I create a betting pool?
Shorting startups is a tricky game, and there’s no direct or standardized way to do it like you would with public equities. Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some insights and strategies to consider:
Shorting Publicly Traded Startups:
If the startup has gone public, you can short its stock like any other public company. However, this comes with risks:
Betting on Failure Through Derivatives:
For startups that are still private, you might explore indirect methods:
Creating a Betting Pool:
While unconventional, creating a betting pool could be an option. You’d essentially be setting up a private market for wagers on startup failures. However:
Focus on Catalysts:
Successful shorts require clear catalysts. For startups, these could include:
Alternative Strategies:
While these methods exist, shorting startups is inherently challenging due to their private nature, lack of liquidity, and unpredictable timelines. If you’re serious about this, you might want to focus on building a network to gain insider insights or explore niche financial instruments that could align with your strategy.
Sources: From PE >> Startup >> Back to PE, Which investing strategy will be most challenged this decade (‘20 through ‘29)?, Shorting Stocks: My Research Process & 7 Rules I Follow, Your best sourcing tips
I mean yeah if you think about the practicalities of shorting your options are to (a) short any accessible companies that have stakes in X startup and/or (b) bet.
Re: (b) yes you could start your own pool but there are so many websites these days that offer alternative betting.
Arguably you could go ahead and create a short-style agreement with an individual/company but that’d be pretty tough
So do any websites offer betting real money on start-up status?
Even if you were able to short, what do you think the borrowing costs would be like on an illiquid security with a concentrated set of holders? When would you be able to cover?
I just assume there’s no currently available option to short things.
No it doesn’t make sense to directly short private shares. It’s too complicated.
But if you off load it as a side bet that just tracks verifiable events it wouldn’t be so difficult. That’s what I mean like a side bet. I could bet on valuation at next round or whatever
Fascinating concept. Betting pools, like Kalshi or Polymarket, maybe?
Yeah maybe. I can always just ask them. But it’s honestly pretty sensitive stuff especially with lot of people’s money involved so who knows if they’ll host those bets
Any updates?
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