The US News Business School Rankings... What are your thoughts?
#1 HBS
#1 UPenn Wharton
#3 UChicago Booth
#4 MIT Sloan
#4 Northwestern Kellogg
#4 Stanford GSB
#7 UC Berkeley Haas
#8 Dartmouth Tuck
#9 Yale SOM
#9 Columbia
#11 UMich Ross
#12 Duke Fuqua
#12 NYU Stern
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-r…
Interesting, but it would take a lot for rankings to change where I'd apply and go if accepted. There aren't too many people out there that would take Wharton over HBS, or Booth, Kellogg, or Sloan over Stanford.
Very true.
I think a lot of folks who want to work in finance might prefer Wharton over HBS, or would prefer Stanford to work in the West Coast in tech, simply because of the networks that you gain from being in that particular ecosystem. HBS is just too large and bulky, so you're easily dwarfed by the sheer number of applicants. Just my two cents though.
I don't think it's too surprising really. Ranking is stupid anyways - there are so many factors and situations that nobody should be targeting for schools basing on one list.
Somebody wanted to screw Columbia really hard.. poor M7 that isn't in the top 7... uS News is probably opening a spot for Yale SOM in the next decade...
Looks like Snyder is the king of ranking optimization, and given how boring and stable rankings are, US News must loves him.
Seriously. Why do you think that's the case?
(Referring to Columbia getting screwed, not Snyder's accomplishments)
Idk, fintech robots from SF? Or the early decision isn't helping yield as much anymore? I personally don't know why. Just speculations
Yale SOM has risen quite a lot over the past several years
Significantly easier to get in to Yale than CBS.
Not arguing with you but what makes you say that?
Totally anecdotally but i have yet to talk to anyone who got accepted to SOM that didn't get in CBS.
Directionally I think a lot of these are probably right. Stanford will always be Stanford, but I think the value proposition for folks who can get into that program becomes smaller as we move later in the tech cycle...
Looking at the movement between T15 schools doesn't make much sense to me. The H / S / W will always be the best.... BUT when you look at the movement around top T25-50, you can see real change and differences in what programs are trying to push towards.
*H/S
Edit: lol at all the MS. W grads are mad at the truth.
Whatever, you got my point
What are some trends (good or bad) that you're seeing that programs are doing?
big if true
As someone planning to apply to HSW & Insead in the fall, not a fan of the GMAT creep. Also surprised at W, felt they were getting negative press over the last year.
I have a more international perspective as I'd like to switch geography from US to EMEA so H/W as #1/#2 seems right based on my discussions with professionals in the country (Stanford just doesn't have the volume of people there). Insead is a close 3.
Calling it now, Dartmouth and Yale will surpass Haas within 3 years. I went to a different B-school than those three btw, I have no skin in that game, but Tuck and SOM have been moving up the ranks steadily. "M7" is already an outdated term looking at Columbia.
Haas went up quite a bit too. I don't think Haas has ever been in the T7
it's actually been consistently #7 for the last...10 years lol
i can't post the link, but there's a gmatclub post that shows the historical usnews ranking
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