25% of Top US MBA Cohort Caught Cheating on Exam, No Punishment

Like the title says I attend a Top US MBA Program and 25% of the cohort got caught cheating, with witnesses on a midterm exam. The University decided that if the cheaters were punished, then it would hurt the "Social Dynamic" of the cohort. Adding another layer of context, all of the students caught cheating are international students from the same country and appears to be a consistent portion of the cohort year over year.

The no punishment decision was decided at the business school level, however according to the Academic Integrity Policy of the university, this severity of cheating at minimum would warrant a one semester suspension. This would then cause the students to lose their visas to be in the US.

One angle is to elevate the matter outside of the business school and bring it to the Graduate or University Level.

Obviously the other 75% of the cohort is pissed. Does anyone have suggestions on how to elevate this without completely devaluing this universities MBA Program?

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Comments (31)

Nov 12, 2021 - 8:37pm

very first question I said to myself after reading the OP lol

the "if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'" mentality is very real with the Chinese students in UG and bschool

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  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Nov 8, 2021 - 2:00pm

Guessing NYU or Columbia.

Some school that is so cucked to Chinese money they CANNOT afford to piss off students there.

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  • Business School in ER
Nov 12, 2021 - 9:08pm

I go to Columbia and have heard nothing about this so don't think it's us. Midterms were a while ago anyway.

Nov 8, 2021 - 2:54pm

This is absurd since grades don't matter at MBA programs anyway, particularly second year. If it was first years who were cheating, the only reason I can really imagine people being pissed is if it's about trying to get second-year scholarship money, in which case the program could just say to all the cheaters "we won't suspend you for X, Y, or Z reason but you aren't eligible for any scholarships."

  • Summer Associate in Consulting
Nov 8, 2021 - 6:01pm

I remember someone cheated in my Junior year course. I didn't do anything. On the one hand I kinda regret it, but on the otherhand if they are incompetent, it will all even out. 

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Nov 9, 2021 - 12:06am

sucks to suck lmfao, the "75%"--or more like the bottom 5% of that 75%--must be complete garbage to fret about MBA grades lmao

  • Associate 2 in IB - Gen
Nov 9, 2021 - 4:57pm

Lmao about the top MBA program part. A top MBA program would not have students from the same country of origin to constitute 25% of a cohort. Also this is probably a school without GND, so must be something out of M7.

  • Intern in IB - Gen
Nov 10, 2021 - 12:10pm

Thinking something like UNC that has a lot of internationals. So a "top" MBA by generous standards (Top 25, not 15)

Nov 13, 2021 - 8:48am

NYU's website says that 32% of their 2023 class is international. I think that the absolute maximum percentage that is Chinese would be in the range of ~10%. Another ~10% Indian. Leaving the final ~10% for people from every other country on the planet.

On a side note, I wonder whether Canadians are considered "international students".

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
Nov 10, 2021 - 7:30pm

I went to UVa, a school that famously had a 0 tolerance policy --- they used to. 0 tolerance meaning you can get suspended for 1-2 semesters or worse.

A lot of people cheated in a corporate strategy class (mostly Americans), but the professor decided to let it go.

Tbh, it's kind of a gray area. Good people make mistakes. Meanwhile, it was unjustice to all of us who didn't cheat because it was a curve-graded class.  

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Nov 10, 2021 - 8:00pm

Unless they fucked the curve you should worry about yourself 

Nov 11, 2021 - 2:49am

As a 1st gen immigrant who grew up in the states since I was 1yrs old (and I rarely play this card), it's absolutely shameful to watch the foreign admit students collude together in every exam and cheat en masse. Like it was so blatant and egregious where I went to college and know that others had the same experience. One time I had a calc professor (I was at an enormous non-target state school for context) make everyone pass up their exam blue books right before administering the test. Literally every foreign student got caught and penalized for cheating that day.

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  • Associate 1 in HF - Other
Nov 11, 2021 - 6:36am

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