Jul 18, 2017
BMW 428i
Why is the 428i (specifically the gran coupe) so cheap? It seems like a pretty cool car but looks to cost a lot less than other models.
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USED BMWs are pieces of shit and depreciate like @bobkindel" chances of making it into investment banking. It's because people who buy them cant afford the premiums and they end up selling the fuckers fast. now multiply that by thousands of fucking Americans and you have a shit ton of BMWs. According to fucking economics, the pieces of shit BMWs drop in price since there is an excess supply of the BMWs no the used car market.
428i is also the bitch of the m4, so that's why it's so cheap. It also has a tiny ass 2 liter engine (i4) with a shit turbo
Talk to me when you can actually afford a Vacheron Constantin and a BMW. Oh wait, you cant even afford Georgetown tuition.
Christ, I sure hope you don't work in finance, I can barely read this abortion of a post.
What evidence do you have that used BMWs are "pieces of shit" - I own two. I'm curious how many you've owned.
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The 428 is the pretty much the base model, entry level coupe. It is the brother of the 328 which is simply it's 4 door counterpart. The car is great for reliability and comfort, with the M-Sport package it is also very fun to drive but do not expect it to be too fast, the 335 is where you get twin turbos and 300~ hp. It's a good choice for a daily driver! All BMW's depreciate just as badly as their Merc/Audi counterparts. It's just how it is when you have updates every year and a face-lift every few years.
"It is not our circumstance that controls us, but our thoughts that control our circumstance." -James Allen
Definitely agree on the depreciation point - I bought mine used (w/ abnormally low mileage) and let the prior owner take the 40% hit to value.
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It definitely sucks but true BMW's are so worth it!
"It is not our circumstance that controls us, but our thoughts that control our circumstance." -James Allen
I drove the 428i gran coupe while my M3 was at the stealership for maintenance. In general, I liked it, but it doesn't feel as responsive as I would like (feels super-lightweight and easy to drive - perhaps due to electrified steering assist).
E90 M3 or E46 M3 O.o?????
E90
fucking sexiest car that (almost) in my price range. I was going to get an E46 M3 but the fucker rod bearings, sub frames and cooling systems are shit. Glad I did my research before I bought off my impulses
Yeah, those are great as well. Definitely try and get a low mileage one AND BUY AN EXTENDED WARRANTY PACKAGE. Can't stress the extended warranty enough... although E46 might not be applicable given the time issue (+10 years).
Yep. I don't really want a BMW as of right now (maintenance will drain me) but yes extended warranty and having service records matter a ton.
If I get into a high paying career my go to car would be an 08ish M5. The v10, plus the classic sedan look and interior makes it such a great buy. Can easily snag a 100k mile one for $20k but will probably need typical bumper to bumper maintenance.
E90 335i is a badass car as well but usually needs brand new turbos which will run for a lot if not covered.
EDIT: ^ waste gate rattle, a guaranteed issue at 100k miles
The e60 M5 could rack up maintenance cost similar to the price of an e46 M3. I would avoid a high mileage one at all cost. As far as the e90 goes, only the n54 engine had that issue and they are 07-10 in standard models. The n55 engine has a lot of improvements over the n54.
I was looking at a 2008 E92 M3 with Tech Package, Premium Package, 19in rims, 1 owner, no accidents, 32K miles, Manual
Its a good looking car. Its a hike for me to test drive (5.5hrs), but I might go this weekend and test drive it. I got a rate from my insurance company, it isn't that bad.
Should I be worried about anything?
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
Get a PPI. The car has been sitting considering how old it is and low mileage. You can have dried out/cracked bushings and such. It's an ///M car so just be ready to drop loads of money on it.
Other than that, you're going to have a lot of fucking fun. My friend has a E92 M3 and man the thing is a rocket ship when you go full throttle.
Edit: 6 speed, even better.
That sounds like a pretty well-conditioned M3. My only thing to say would be that most extended vehicle protection plans only go up to 10 years... You could probably get coverage for 1 additional year or so, but after that you'd be directly responsible for any issues that pop up.
Being completely honest with you, I was told by the guy I take my car to (he's the owner of the repair shop and has 2 M3s) that once M3s get above 40k miles that there can be some really expensive issues that unexpectedly pop up such as VANOS or rod bearings.
As a side note, I have a E92 M3 with less than 30k miles... I had leaky rear differential axle seals, needed a new battery and then had an EDC module failure... all of this for $3k at an independent dealer (can't imagine what it would have been at the dealer). 95%+ of this amount was covered via my extended vehicle protection plan.
If its a manual I'd pick up an E46 m3, otherwise E90
E46 are pretty high miles ...
why E90 over E92?
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
I just like the looks of the E92. I like the taillights on the E92 better than the E90. I like coupes. I think the car looks sleeker.
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
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I have an f30 335i (the sedan vs coupe) as my daily and really enjoy it. The 428i is typically going to come stripped of many options and be a very basic car. The n20 engine is a little lethargic in comparison, but its not considered slow by any means.
This is my favorite thread.
I really like the M4.
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
For Sure the best bang for the buck. 15's are low 50's now. Kind of want to pick up a 16 ZCP. Struggling to resist.
it's great value to be honest. yes the depreciation sucks, but that's true of all new cars. Get one model year back or just lease it (what I do because then you don't have to fuck with extended warranties, feeling bad for upgrading etc.) 4 series looks amazing, drives really well, and is fast and comfortable enough. Need the packages though, so the price will be significantly higher than MSRP. Cheaper because most people want the bigger engine or luxury packages.
Have had a number of BMWs (M3, 328, 335, X3) and all of them are pretty amazing cars. There is something about the way they drive and they way they are designed that just sets them apart.
who buys a bimmer thats not an M3/5/6 or X6?
honestly ill take a volvo suv with all the fixins
heister:
Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.
so 7 series not cool enough?
you need all that room? get an x6 you fuck. better yet get a volvo
heister:
Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.
x6 is ugly as fuck. at least have some style and go for a GLE.
Instead, I'd get the jag xe with the supercharged 3 liter engine. It looks particularly good in a metallic red, and the exterior styling offers more curb side appeal than the 428 (which are super common in my area)
The downside to the car is tech and interior quality. If you prioritize these things, the 2018 A4 should be a top choice.
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I wouldn't get a Jag due to reliability issues - I know someone who has a newer model XE and that thing is always in the shop having something fixed with it. Could be driver error, but it isn't uncommon to hear of that stuff with Jags.
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