Deloitte Federal Analyst S&O

Hey guys,

I was just curious to see if anyone knew anything about Deloitte's Federal Analyst in the Strategy & Operations Group.

Things such as, how hard is it to transfer over to the commercial practice? how good are the exit opportunities in terms of MBA placement etc.? how reputable is Deloitte's program etc.?

Thanks

 
Best Response

I can’t speak for the commercial transfer opportunities, but I can nearly guarantee that you will start out performing compliance reviews for HUD or creating flowcharts for DOD audit readiness efforts (yes even in S&O – all practitioners do the same work in Federal). If these things interest you then certainly go for it; otherwise, you may end up tearing your hair out and looking for exit opportunities a whole lot sooner than you imagined.

Just an additional thought, I spent two years in Deloitte’s Federal practice after spending one year in commercial, and I couldn’t wait to get out. Federal work is absolute dogshit, and if you have any aspirations of affecting change or being challenged in your career, you will not find it with Federal government clients.

So to summarize, I can’t speak for the commercial transfer opportunities, but Deloitte S&O is one of the more highly regarded spots in an otherwise soul-sucking pool of seriously handicapped professionals. How well you network and how creatively you spin your Federal experience will determine how successful you are in transferring to your commercial destiny.

Hopefully this helps.

 
jonathon.daley:
Just an additional thought, I spent two years in Deloitte’s Federal practice after spending one year in commercial, and I couldn’t wait to get out. Federal work is absolute dogshit, and if you have any aspirations of affecting change or being challenged in your career, you will not find it with Federal government clients.
You probably didn't know in advance what federal work would be like, but any insight into what compelled you switch from commercial to federal? Most people don't try to do that, short of personal/traveling reasons
 
shirking:
jonathon.daley:
Just an additional thought, I spent two years in Deloitte’s Federal practice after spending one year in commercial, and I couldn’t wait to get out. Federal work is absolute dogshit, and if you have any aspirations of affecting change or being challenged in your career, you will not find it with Federal government clients.
You probably didn't know in advance what federal work would be like, but any insight into what compelled you switch from commercial to federal? Most people don't try to do that, short of personal/traveling reasons

Nope – you nailed it. I had no idea what I was getting into. I was young and naïve. Deloitte’s Federal sector was exploding at the time, and they were trying to get as many commercial folks to transfer as they could (probably should have been a flag). I ate up the firm’s pitch that Federal work would be exciting, prestigious, etc. And here I am . . .

Aside from that, I did and still really do like DC; it can be a great city. I also had a sister out there and knew I would have the opportunity to be closer to her out there. So that’s what was going on in my head.

Now, however, I’m thrilled to be back in commercial realm and back in Chicago.

 
shirking:
jonathon.daley:
Just an additional thought, I spent two years in Deloitte’s Federal practice after spending one year in commercial, and I couldn’t wait to get out. Federal work is absolute dogshit, and if you have any aspirations of affecting change or being challenged in your career, you will not find it with Federal government clients.
You probably didn't know in advance what federal work would be like, but any insight into what compelled you switch from commercial to federal? Most people don't try to do that, short of personal/traveling reasons

Nope – you nailed it. I had no idea what I was getting into. I was young and naïve. Deloitte’s Federal sector was exploding at the time, and they were trying to get as many commercial folks to transfer as they could (probably should have been a flag). I ate up the firm’s pitch that Federal work would be exciting, prestigious, etc. And here I am . . .

Aside from that, I did and still really do like DC; it can be a great city. I also had a sister out there and knew I would have the opportunity to be closer to her out there. So that’s what was going on in my head.

Now, however, I’m thrilled to be back in commercial realm and back in Chicago.

 
Treadstone:
Is federal S&O viewed by MBA programs the same way as commercial S&O or is it viewed as an inferior program to the commerical counterpoint?

I don’t think it’s viewed as inferior. A buddy of mine was a Manager in Deloitte Federal and now he’s in his first year of Booth’s full-time program rubbing MBB elbows. Granted, he has a monster resume and GMAT score; however, he pitched the Federal experience as a unique positive.

 
Bluevball8:

Starting is ~65K in Federal and there are no bonuses until you get to Consultant (at least for Commercial). Commercial pays slightly higher but Federal gets much better hours.

At lower levels (say Senior Consultant and below), absolutely. However, I know plenty of folks at the Senior Manager level and higher in Deloitte's federal practice that are putting in 70-80+ hours a week consistently, often more. In the end, closing deals (or writing proposals) is the same anywhere, and client management always takes up lots of time.

A huge perk of federal at all levels if less travel, which is great for those with kids. It gives those in senior positions the ability to have dinner with family, make events, but still put in needed hours.

 

Depends on the school and your experience. Unlike commercial, there's a pretty big range, and post MBA prospects usually come in as a senior consultant between $85-125k.

 
Mo Money:

What's the progression at Deloitte?

Consultant > Sr Consultant > Associate and so on?

Similar to the specialist track, the "associate" title is part of an alternate track in Deloitte Consulting, not the traditional track.

Traditional track progression: Analyst > Consultant > Senior Consultant (post- MBA starting point) > Manager > Senior Manager > Principal (equity Partner in the firm with no CPA) or Director (non-equity)

Cheers

No pain, no pain.
 
abacab:

It's low compared to MBA interns for same role (in quantum of like $50K+ lower). This looks closer to analyst salary. There is a mismatch between the level and offer and all that, not sure how much it has to do with non MBA masters. But even for those I thought they standardize it.

You mean MBA interns at Deloitte S&O, or Deloitte Federal? Federal salaries are lower than S&O for FT roles, so it would make sense they are lower for interns as well.
 

Have a chat with a current MSB student or walk over the the career center at McDonough. I believe Federal S&O hires Senior Consultants from MBA programs like Georgetown at $120k, so this is much lower than that.

 

OP, if it's helpful, I am in the same boat as you. The only difference is I'm at GW. Looks like they've standardized the summer salary across schools (at least for the DC area).

 

This is for PwC specifically, but I know of kids from UG and master's degrees (non-MBA) from my class who tried to negotiate the base and were unsuccessful, but was able to successfully negotiate bigger sign-on bonus instead, so that may be the route you want to go down if all else fails.

Hugo
 

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