It's kind of sad to see it. I remember in 2001 when he was America's Mayor. Prior was a shining star as a top prosecutor for Southern District of NY. Famous for putting mafia members and finance titans alike on the perp walk.
Now he's a laughingstock, holding press conferences between dildo stores and fertilizer marts, and portraying a lawyer from My Cousin Vinny in court.
It's a trainwreck and fall from grace that's just hard to watch.
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Yeah 20k a day will do that to you I guess
The dude cant catch a break
Alright citi
It's called aging. You will get there as well. It's not like Biden isn't on the same cloud anyway.
Lol, holy false equivalency. I love how Republicans have to pretend the “other guys are just as bad!” to defend this circus.
But I'm not defending him. He's a waste of time in the best scenario and pathetic in the worst. I don't indulge in open bashing simply because we all get there eventually.
logical fallacies are the biggest issues in politics today
Time doesn't care for your political party and both sides have aging bums that do nothing. Sanders was just an old man complaining about the rich half the time.
Liberal media been slapping this fool around for the past four years. What can you expect when you only see things through one lense?
What other lens could you possibly see this in? His last few months have objectively been a total disaster
Oh tell us, wise one whose head is up his arse, please tell us what you see through the "other lense"
I mean, it is no secret that the media will exploit any sort of fallible offense prominent politicians make that oppose their narrative, often to the point exaggeration and embellishment. It is the same for conservative media and liberal media alike, but I think in the current political climate there seems to be a general disdain for Trump and his administration. There is no such thing as objective truth, but take Hunter Biden for example, where he was ripped apart for his involvement in shady business dealings and drugs. It was a very hot topic at the time but has since basically vanished to the point of no one talking about it. I suspect a there will be a similar situation for Guiliani. I can gather that he has been a part of some generally embarrassing moments, but in their portrayal by the broader media has been generally very aggressive and negative. Breaking down each instance:
These brainwashed Trumpstas are SAD. How do you defend this guy?
In the past few months he...
- Got exploited on BORAT. Why did he take that interview again?
- Hair dye gate.
- Fart gate.
- Got COVID.
Thanks for the content though. Donald Trump and his people are the most embarrassing thing that has happened to this country in my lifetime.
Don't forget the best of them all... Four Seasons Total Landscaping Presser
I mean, his reputation was vastly overrated in the first place. Decent district attorney, though a bit of a showboater. Crappy mayor, coasted off the decrease in crime started under Dinkins (and which was due more to macroeconomic concerns, rather than his "no squeegee people" philosophy), his entire reputation was bailed out by 9/11, for which he made a lot of press appearances but did very little of use.
I have no idea what he did in private practice, but the toadying of the last four years is pretty much in keeping with what he did in the 90s as mayor - keep in front of the press and take a lot of credit for doing very little. The difference is, he's now forced to defend a complete clown of a person and his mental breakdown makes it harder for him to mask that.
Crappy mayor, coasted off the decrease in crime started under Dinkins (and which was due more to macroeconomic concerns, rather than his "no squeegee people" philosophy), his entire reputation was bailed out by 9/11, for which he made a lot of press appearances but did very little of use.
Crappy mayor? LMFAO. Guiliani gave William Bratton the NYPD Commissioner job (who ran the MTA under Dinkins), he was the architect behind cleaning up the subways and endorsed broken windows policing. From there "stop and frisk" was ramped up and was highly successful (albeit controversial) - and this was all under Rudy's watch. Give the man credit where it's due.
Bratton was a questionable call. I won't call it bad, but he wouldn't stand up to the likes of Pat Lynch from the union.
And Dinkins gave Bratton the job as MTA police chief in 1990. So if we're going to give credit to someone for recognizing talent, it once again has to be Dinkins. To which I'll add that Dinkins was the real architect of the "no broken windows" type of policy, as his administration was the progenitor of almost all the crime-related trends that Giuliani takes credit for. And I was young, but Wikipedia is bearing out my vague memory that Giuliani essentially forced Bratton to resign because he felt that his NYPD chief was getting more credit for the reduction in crime than he was. That's the sign of a terrible executive, not a good one.
Yes, much of it happened under Rudy's watch - but all of it started earlier and continued after, which strongly implies that he just happened to be there, not that he was responsible. But you're right, Giuliani was the biggest proponent (along with Bratton) of stop-and-frisk, which of all the policing methods used by the city in the last few decades is by far the most bigoted and prejudiced.
Slightly unrelated, but Giuliani is the kind a loyal friend you want. He had an amazing reputation from being mayor of NY, and he's willing to degrade all that by making a fool of himself to help a guy out. You can tell Trump and Giuliani have a great friendship.
Trump will throw him under the bus the second he gets into some hot water just like he did with Cohen. You seriously think Trump would do even half of the shit that Guiliani did for him?
Everyone's expendable to Trump. I legitimately think he has no true friends and he would never do the reverse (stick his neck out / reputation on the line for someone else).
Not a commentary on his policies or anything else. I just think Trump is a very bad role model for how to live your life as a person, unless you are a narcissistic sociopath. At which point, just use everyone around you for your own personal gain without regards to maximizing any other dimension.
Trump gave his mentor Roy Cohn a gift of diamond cuff links that they later found to be fake after his death...
Except for Bill Bratton, who Giuliani forced to resign as NYPD chief because he felt he was getting too much credit for the drop in crime, and Giuliani not enough
With Trump, people can go from "greatest [lawyer/politician/person] in America, terrific guy - and a personal friend of mine" to "Person is a loser, a nobody. hardly knew him" at the drop of a hat. No one is safe - I'm very confident that Trump would sell out his own kids, if it came down to it.
Trump is a black hole you get sucked into and can never return. Now he's dying from Covid and it's really unfortunate.
Anyone who pisses away their credibility for Trump deserves it
To all you Trump supporters out there. Generally, POTUS and any politician you vote for is usually a standup guy/gal that you’d want your children to become. Riddle me this: would you want your child to be Donald Trump? (That is his character and everything about him)
It’s ridiculous to call this “general” knowledge. Maybe that’s what you look for in a president, but that doesn’t mean everyone has to be like you .
But to answer your question both Biden and Trump have attributes that I’d want my kids to have (if I have or adopt any) and both have attributes that I would not want my kids to have.
realistically, what about biden would you not want your kids to emulate?
LOL, "character matters!" was standard Republican orthodoxy until the exact moment Trump won their presidential nomination.
no kids no problem
Attention is the most addictive drug in the world and his ego prevents him from recognizing his limits as well as that he’s no longer the “it” guy.
He has dementia and should not be in the public eye. However, when you put yourself out in public politics, you deserve whatever mockery is coming. If I was his family, I would've made him stop this long ago.
Rudy is an absolute train wreck and a bumbling idiot, but man, is he ever entertaining to watch.
Maybe he's just taking one for the team?
At this point in his life, Giuliani probably doesn't have anything to lose so he's just acting as a scapegoat all the while other Trump allies ares covering up their act to secure their future.
I hope so man.
I think people give Guliani way too much credit for his time as mayor and US Attorney. My dad who's a lawyer and is not a fan of Wall Street said Guliani in his prosecutor years would publicly arrest people in finance in which he had no case against just for publicity. Also said that as mayor he lied about the health risks of going back to the 9/11 area too early and didn't stop first responders from searching through the rubble for dead bodies and getting cancer in the process. Just look at how he has conducted his personal life through the years (divorced his second wife in a press conference without telling her beforehand). Not too different from his current behavior.
karma is getting guiliani after what he did to marc rich - what really happened was an unproven accusation of tax evasion, of which other american commodity trading firms were fully engaged in, but guiliani used rich to make himself look like a hero at the expense of an innocent person that was drawn out to be the devil
"Truth isn't truth!!!" -Rudolph Giuliani
Bump
would still take him over de blasio
I've heard he fell while drunk and sustained a traumatic brain injury. Hasn't been the same since that...
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