How much impact will an undergraduate GPA have vs. a graduate GPA on future career? Differences between 3.7 and 3.8?
Hello all! I just completed my masters in accountancy this may with a 3.7 GPA, and I earned an honors degree in undergrad with a 3.8 GPA. When I was an undergrad, I majored in accounting and double minored in marketing & economics. In September this year, I will be pursuing another master degree in public administration & international development for two years.
As far as professional experiences, I have always tried to work as much as possible when I was in school (have a total of 2 years of experiences) with finance internships at two of the Big-four accounting firms and three of the Fortune 100 companies.
Eventually I want to go work for one of the consulting firms or an international finance organization like the IMF/the World Bank.
However, I am scared that my 3.7 GPA in masters of accountancy will hinder my chances of getting into those organizations. Should I be concerned?? My grad GPA did decrease from undergrad, what is the possible impact? Will any of you provide more insight on what is valued more when it comes to getting a competitive job?
Thank you for the answers!!
Yeah man I'm sorry to tell you this, but your future is dim. The difference between that 3.7 and the 3.8 is going to really hinder your career.
Good luck my friend.
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You think someone would want to hire you after seeing your GPA decrease from 3.8 to 3.7? It dropped off a cliff. You might as well apply for food stamps today...
The world needs ditch diggers too. Godspeed.
I would recommend seeking employment at enterprise rent a car, they give you the tools to be your own boss.
Let's not get too optimistic with these goals. McDonald's bathroom attendant is much more attainable.
@jbone24" they have an incredible corporate structure
lol okay guys- it all started with an acquaintance of mine who was leading the recruiting efforts at one of the firms. he told me that based on my GPA there was no chance for a 1st round.
all of your comments are funny. thanks for mocking me but i do appreciate the assurance!!
That's some pretty shitty acquaintances you have there.
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Low BSc; High MSc GPA (Originally Posted: 08/25/2014)
Hello everybody,
Unfortunately I didn't get to manage myself a high gpa for my bachelor ( Low = 2.6). But after that I discovered the beauty of Finance and I did manage myself a 8 month M&A internship at a boutique. After that I started my master last year and iI finished it with a 4.0 GPA.
For next year I plan to an extra law master and try to get in an investment banking internship. I read a lot about low gpa's and the bad chances. Do you think my master will clean it up a little? Do I have good chances or doen't change my master gpa anything?
BTW. Passed level 1 CFA
Do I think your master will clean it up a little? Yes. A medium amount? Yes A lot? Hard to say.
Passing the CFA L1 and a 4.0 in an Msc are no easy feats, so technically you have proven yourself. It will really be up to chance now, and whether or not you will land in good graces.
Thanks for your reply.
This gives me confidence. I'm gonna work hard and try to get an summer internship next year. And maybe I sign up for the CFA level 2 exam.
Do I list undergrad GPA after getting my masters? (Originally Posted: 07/23/2015)
Hi all, I recently graduated from a top-3 public university with a 3.4 (3.35 to be exact) and a liberal arts degree. With a lot of luck, I managed to get accepted into a top-2 ranked Computer Science program for my masters in information technology (focusing on ebusiness technologies). I was wondering once I graduate from my masters, can I omit my undergrad from my resume and list only my masters? Or does this raise a red flag? I understand a lot more goes into the resume than a but for the sake of just the "education" part of a resume/ aka getting past the screener at companies. So for example, Accenture recruits from my graduate school heavily and lists a 3.5 as a minimum GPA and doesn't indicate if I this is for undergraduate or graduate GPA. If get above a 3.5 in the masters program, do they use that or my undergrad to evaluate?
I'm in the same boat as you, where my graduate GPA is a 3.8, but my undergrad GPA was something like a 3.0. So on my resume I just list my MBA GPA and don't put my undergrad GPA. It's also unrelated because it was for a computer science degree (Which are wayyyyyy harder than business or finance at the school I went to)
If you have a 4.0 or something leave it on, because it's a value add. In your case, it's not, so I'd just list your masters GPA unless you absolutely shit yourself and get a worse GPA than your undergraduate.
I think you just need your Masters; it's more relevant and more recent than your UG, especially since people probably look at your resume because of your Masters anyway.
thanks that's comforting. the goal is MBB (like everyone else) but I am keeping my hopes in check and making sure I am competitive for "2nd tier" firms like delloite, Accenture, IBM, etc. thanks yall
Undergrad gpa once youre in b school (Originally Posted: 02/12/2012)
Does it matter at all? To anyone? Obviously talking about recruiters
Did you get in somewhere? I hope you did. Good luck.
Undergrad gpa once youre in b school
by shorttheworld ST
(Neanderthal, 3321 Points) on 2/12/12 at 8:42pm Credits Does it matter at all? To anyone? Obviously talking about recruiters
Don't ever let the place you start dictate where you finish
Does your GPA in grad school matteR?
Haha I always thought as long as you got into a school it didn't matter but now semi hearing other things from other people and worried :p
At CBS/W/Booth. Depends on your interviewer and whether the school currently has Grade Non Disclosure in place.
Sure, some banks/consulting shops will ask you for your undergrad GPA, but I don't think it matters that much. If you're concerned about your ugrad GPA, crush your first semester and get very good grades. If your school has grade non disclosure, make dean's list. It stands out and could help mitigate any concerns your interviewer could have otherwise had with your ugrad GPA.
id still tell them. eff everyone else lol
id still tell them. eff everyone else lol
Banks look down on kids who can't abide by honor policies, so I'm sure everyone else would love that.
the banks and consulting firms still will ask even if your school has a NGD in place, some people still tell
Absolutely can happen. Just went through banking recruiting and while I wasn't asked what my grades were, I was asked whether I made Dean's List. They specifically acknowledged that they know that they can't ask grades and don't want us to disclose our grades to them, either. So they made up for it by asking about Dean's List and making the interviews much more technical.
Do I still need to include my undergrad GPA at this point? (Originally Posted: 03/12/2015)
I just finished college in December at a USNWR top 5 school, but didn't end up with an ideal GPA at the end (3.1-3.3 range). I'm going to be starting grad school at a pretty good program (though not a traditional target for BB finance or top-tier consulting) with some notable presence of finance and consulting. If I ace grad school, will I still need to put my mediocre undergrad GPA on my resume even if I don't have any real FT experience besides a few internships that add up to about 12 months or so?
Not a definitive answer here, but I know headhunters that do ask for undergrad GPA (hell they even ask for SATs oddly enough), probably because some MBA programs have non-disclosure policies for MBA GPAs, so they need some sort of number to screen candidates on.
I'd imagine direct recruiters that work at a bank are probably less caring about that stuff.
Not a definitive answer here, but I know headhunters that do ask for undergrad GPA (hell they even ask for SATs oddly enough), probably because some MBA programs have non-disclosure policies for MBA GPAs, so they need some sort of number to screen candidates on.
I'd imagine direct recruiters that work at a bank are probably less caring about that stuff.
This is not an MBA masters, so there's no non-disclosure policy.
bump any more responses?
Every resume I've seen from people 1-3 years out of grad school has had both undergrad and graduate GPA's included. I actually didn't know this was even a close situation. Most likely the only people choosing not to include it were people with bad GPA's like in your case.
Argument for leaving GPA off: If I were a recruiter, I'd assume your undergrad GPA not being shown looks bad, but you have some chance of this not being the case, whereas outright showing it tells them immediately.
Argument for including GPA: Given your undergrad was top 5, it is probably best to keep the brand name on there even with the bad GPA.
My vote is to include it.
I would include it. If you don't include it, it would seem like you didn't include it because it was sub 3... As long as your grad GPA will be higher I think you should include
Since you're still so close to school, I would include it as well. Even though I'm >5 years from undergrad and finishing my MBA, pretty much every job I applied for asked for my undergrad GPA in the application process. It's going to come up regardless, just put it on there so they know from the get go that it isn't under 3.
Importance of undergrad gpa if... (Originally Posted: 07/05/2011)
you have gone to grad school for Masters of Science degree and are currently in a MBA program. I would hope good grades in a masters and mba would offset poor undergrad. Is that too hopeful?
Yeah, your UG GPA doesn't matter as much.
you are correct
I left my UG GPA off my resume completely after my first semester of MSF.
No one had a problem with that?
If you are already pursuing an MBA, just take the U Grad GPA off of your resume - you don't need it, and if it is bad, it will only add a negative note to your application, which otherwise, usually, would not need to be disclosed.
In this case would any GPA be listed. I think it would draw attention to the vacant undergrad spot if I listed masters and mba but no undergrad. I think I will just not list any.
I had a hard first year and averaged a (2.9). Since then though I've brought it up to a 3.74 if you leave out first year of UG studies. I plan on just putting my post freshman GPA on my resume (the 3.74) and noting that this GPA is since Fall semester 2010 using a footer at the bottom of the page. It is not lying but unless the recruiter really pays attention to what year I started (in my mind) they will see the GPA and give me a better chance. Anyone else think this is a good idea?
The footer will only draw attention to your shitty freshman year. You might even get dinged. Just list it as it is (maybe round up slightly) and crush the interview.
Quick gpa question (Originally Posted: 01/17/2013)
Quick question, I have a pretty low undergrad gpa a little above 3/4.3. My grad school gpa is a much better 4.1/4.3. Should I erase my older GPA from my resume?
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