I just want to quit and go live in the wild...

Title says it all... Starting this week, something just started feeling "not right".

Sure I'm making lots of money for a 20 something year old. Sure the work is unique and I'm learning a lot that I wouldn't be able to learn elsewhere. Heck I even got a big fat bonus and got told that I'm being fast-tracked for a promotion so why shouldn't I be happy?

I just realized that I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT MONEY OR TITLE. I feel like everyone else in the world is in this weird bubble trying to maximize their TC and title as much as possible in the shortest amount of time. Something about this "system" just feels obscene.

I watched 2 JRE episodes about 2 dudes who just lived in the wild for months. And I immediately thought, "I've got to do that". It just felt like my true calling. I just want to drop everything and live like a hunter gatherer for a while. Then I want to go get myself a PhD in econ/OR and live the life of a true researcher. I want to live in a tiny shack somewhere and focus all my time and energy researching things I'm interested in. If I feel like I've discovered enough knowledge, I want to build an organization (business, non-profit, or whatever) from scratch before I die. 

I feel like all 3 of these are connected by the theme of "seeking the truth". By living in the wild, I would be discovering truths about myself, my physical and mental limits, and the nature. By being an academic, I would be spending all my time discovering the nature of this world. By being an entrepreneur, I would be discovering the fundamentals of what makes human society go around. 

If I don't try all 3 before I die, I'm afraid I'll regret my entire life. I wouldn't care if I became a multi-millionaire if that wealth just came from being "part of the system".

Anyone else feel this way?

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  • Intern in IB-M&A
Feb 26, 2021 - 9:18pm

Sometimes I think that it would be nice to forget everything and live in the wild, and then I remember that Chris McCandless died because he ate some seeds.

Hell yeah go live in the woods, but bring tons of hot pockets or something 

In all seriousness though, go do something that makes you feel alive. If you have dreams that you want to accomplish, and you think they're realistic/smart when taking the future into consideration, then go out and achieve them.

Feb 26, 2021 - 10:37pm

Don't get a PhD in Econ lol. This guy who tutored me in econ who was PhD was an asshole to me. I prefer to talk to someone who has a real career than to be exploring a PhD or living in the wild and being a shitty person to me or talking to me in a gross way. 

You won't seek truth by living in the wild or studying PhD in econ. 

You seek truth by studying epistemology - and learning how to differentiate a justified true belief from an opinion. By learning about metaphysics. By questioning reality and reading Bertrand Russell. Also by studying formal logic. 

Feb 26, 2021 - 11:34pm

jorbanana56

Don't get a PhD in Econ lol. This guy who tutored me in econ who was PhD was an asshole to me. I prefer to talk to someone who has a real career than to be exploring a PhD or living in the wild and being a shitty person to me or talking to me in a gross way. 

What? Just because this one guy was an asshole to you doesn't mean that all Econ PhDs are that way.

If the first girl you ever interacted was a heartless bitch, would you think that all women are bitches?

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Feb 26, 2021 - 10:58pm

I have a place for you. You go live in the wild in Canada for a week or more. You are assigned chores. It costs you nothing. You work for what you eat. They feed you local organic food. You must stay for 1 week minimum. It is a Catholic community, but they accept everyone. You are obligated to follow their schedule and go to mass everyday. 

It is basically a bunch of cool hippies living in the wilderness. Highly recommended 10/10. 

https://www.madonnahouse.org/

I was a lumberjack there and also worked on the farm and collected maple sap. You can just email them to reserve a stay. 

Edit: It might be open only to Canada residents now - idk the new Covid rules

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Feb 26, 2021 - 11:29pm

I was collecting sap with this French Canadian priest and in the morning, before we took the buckets to collect, we lit a candle and prayed to St. Matthew. I asked the priest - "why are we paying to St. Matthew?" He responded: "because St. Matthew was a tax collector." I was left confused. I asked "well, what does that have to do with collecting sap?" He said "we charge the trees a tax for them to stay on our land." 

lololol

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Feb 26, 2021 - 11:19pm

Thanks bro. I actually plan on writing a book. My business advisor who was a life coach at FAANG recommends I write the book. Based on the scope of how many talented individuals she meets on a regular basis versus her recommendation, I think writing the book is realistic. I just don't know the timeline, but it is happening. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Feb 26, 2021 - 11:49pm

Milton Friedchickenman

Do they teach you how to hunt and survive in the wild? 

Not really, but you do have to know or learn how to operate a fire burning stove. It is your only source of heat if you're in a log cabin. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

  • Intern in HF - Other
Feb 27, 2021 - 4:32am

An alternative for this may be becoming a forest maintenance person (forget the exact role since its been a few years).

Hung out with a group of guys from Ontario who would live 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off in the forest doing some kind of work that didn't seem too demanding. They said they got pay the equivalent to low 6 figures for doing it. 

  • Intern in IB - Ind
Mar 5, 2021 - 10:06am

My dude I lold at this response.  You've done the most crazy stuff

especially the lumberjack part

Feb 26, 2021 - 11:23pm

No lie man, I'm seriously considering the same. Not so much about not caring about money, I love and will always want more and have no problem admitting it. But I've definitely gotten disillusioned with living in/near big cramped cities with constant threat of unrest or potential for immediate government overreach. The idea of a pseudo-castle out in the woods or somewhere far away from a large population center, so long as I can keep strong internet connection, is very appealing. Speed it up Elon, we're waiting on you.

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Feb 27, 2021 - 1:34am

I didn't read much here but I understood the high-level topic -- I questioned experience over money and I ultimately decided to sail by myself across the great unknown... brought a bunch of liqour and pot like Jack sparrow and found myself on a journey... a sailboat, myself, and nature... the emotion and raw feeling I felt at times will never surpass anything I have ever felt in corpo life. There are moments in life that you are missing out on.... it changes everything you believe in but you will never know unless you do it... journey into the unknown. 

The video that motivated me to do this: 

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Feb 28, 2021 - 5:13pm

icm9823

wtf - does working in finance actually render even the brightest minds into this? Or is this just a temporary symptom of the left's incessant shutdowns

Jeezus shut the fuck up.

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Mar 24, 2021 - 3:09pm

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Feb 28, 2021 - 9:48am

I feel for you OP. Reading your post gave me vibes from this class one, albeit not to the same degree: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/life-after-investment-banking

You only live once, you've probably reached a point where anymore money is diminishing in terms of happiness, however you want to define it. I've recently read a book called "Die With Zero" by Bill Perkins and it provides a lot of perspective on balancing delayed gratification with how much money you save, etc.

I was lucky to have a very successful career in this industry (unlike most people who quit, I fortunately have no bitter resentments or soul-sucking grudges to hold). If it's any encouragement, I actually started school part-time this semester to eventually work my way into grad school (looking at bioinformatics, crosses with ML/AI applications to medicine, etc). You're not alone in this, you should do what makes you happy. Once pandemic's over, I plan on just traveling the world, whether it's backpacking in the Andes, visiting Europe for the first time, or trying out exotic foods in places I've never even heard of before committing fully to school. I think working in the industry really gave me an appreciation for academia, so I feel even more motivated to make the plunge. Life's too short to be a corporate slave for the sake of money. 

Feb 28, 2021 - 11:39am

What do you mean by "living in the wild"? There is a huge difference between living in a tent vs. cabin. If you mean something more like the former, there is a very good chance that if you wander deep enough into the wild that at minimum you will have a greater appreciation for modern life. The cold nights  and lack of readily available basic provisions like food and water plus threat of predators might just change your outlook. Predatory threats  like bears, mountain lions, and wolves are real and thoughts of them taking your life will be take significant space in your mind quickly once you are out in the wild, especially at night. What if you get sick? Good luck getting help without a cell signal.

These thoughts are all from experience...

Feb 28, 2021 - 12:18pm

Sounds like Milton needs a girlfriend.

You should consider relocating to another country, if anything just to blow your money and change of scenery.

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Feb 28, 2021 - 5:16pm

Save every penny and throw it at some rental properties in a lower COLA area in a few years.  This industry fucking blows and if you don't want to climb the ranks it can still be your ticket to financial freedom.  There's a lot of people who hate their life even more and they have no way out: suck it up, keep your tastes simple, and plan for the day when you can say FUCK THIS and bail.

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Feb 28, 2021 - 7:54pm

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Button won't work so here's a comment. Also, have you done this yourself? I dream of the day I can bail and move to a low COL area, but there's just no finance jobs. Being a rental landlord sounds like an awesome way to do this and still make some money.

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Feb 28, 2021 - 9:38pm

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Button won't work so here's a comment. Also, have you done this yourself? I dream of the day I can bail and move to a low COL area, but there's just no finance jobs. Being a rental landlord sounds like an awesome way to do this and still make some money.

This is my early retirement plan.  Covid has put the brakes on a lot of my planning and I'm waiting to see how rents/foreclosures/etc shake out over the next couple years....
 

Someone I know started buying rentals a couple years before they left industry so I'm ripping off their idea. They paid a premium for property managers while they were in industry, then phased them out over time as he left industry.  Clearly every industry has upsides/downsides but the one thing that sticks out is how much free time you can have with well managed properties.  The dude I know makes somewhat less money than me and has some issues to deal with sometimes (repairs, needy tenant, etc) but basically is out fishing most days, is a semi pro guide now.

It will take a few years, especially making sure I have enough emergency cash reserves built up in case something like covid ever happens again.  Trick is to keep your tastes simple: buy clothing on sale, minimize eating out, common sense.

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Mar 1, 2021 - 12:39pm

i think that a lot. we're rats in a maze homie

heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

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Mar 4, 2021 - 3:28pm

I dream of that often. living on the beach, spearfishing for my meals, shit like that, it's not just you.

if you really feel you'll regret it, do this - you probably have vacation time available. book 2 weeks off somewhere wild and give it a trial run. if you feel like you could continue, then pursue your plan. if it's not all it's cracked up to be, you'll be glad it was a vacation and not your new life.

Mar 5, 2021 - 7:46am

I've been watching people build huts out in the wild on YouTube for years. and I spend hours gazing out the window in to the wilderness while WFH.

Mar 24, 2021 - 2:32pm
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