Is this a crazy idea?

I have a FT offer at a NYC BB, and I've pretty much decided I'm going to turn it down for another offer that's "lower" MM but in a low COL southern city.

I understand all the benefits from networking, exits, PE, 'prestige,' that come from a NYC BB, but with all the horror stories this year, I just have no interest in forgoing the shorter-term financial stability I would get from the MM cost of living. I DON'T want to make this political whatsoever but I just don't see the appeal after the last year of NYC anymore especially if it goes down its current path.

I know I could change my mind, but as of now I don't really have an interest in some top PE fund or something. I honestly just want to save as much $$ as possible over the next two years and then sort of figure out what I want to do. I also don't want to be dependent on my year-end bonus like in NYC, because who knows if I'll make it through the whole year.

I pretty much just want to gain decent experience and save a ton. Is this short-sighted or am even I looking at NYC/BB 'prestige' incorrectly? Will I regret this? Any guidance much appreciated.

 

You will regret it. There is no comparison to the sheer level of experience a BB will bring you, especially being in NYC. To that effect, the fact that you’re entering and haven’t been in the industry thus far... you are making assumptions based on other people’s comments, some of which may or may not ring true for you in this experience. Not every single banker hates his life. My 2c: it’s foolish to turn it down for something lesser where the experience you stand to gain is almost certainly (and potentially severely) diminished.

 

If you can avoid lifestyle creep, your salary will soon become so much larger than your true cost of living. It makes sense to take the better paying job rather than the job in the LCOL area. Remember, it is pretty easy to go from a BB to some MM firm in a third tier city. You can always tap out if you can't take the heat. Start in the major leagues and if you find it isn't or you, hop on a plane to Denver or Jacksonville or wherever. 

 

I don’t think it’s necessarily crazy, but I don’t think it’s prudent. Yeah, all of the personal accounts/data people are sharing of how terrible banking has been can be quite terrifying for a new entrant to the industry. But, I don’t think it’ll be like this forever or even next year imo (take w/ a grain of salt).

I think the experience you get from a NYC BB is almost unparalleled. You can spend a year or less at the BB, and if you don’t like it then you could move to a MM in a low COL area. Lateraling from a MM to a BB is harder anyways.

 
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Go wherever you think you'll be happiest.  Who cares about BB in NYC if you hate your life, get depressed, fat, and ugly?  Chasing prestige is almost always the wrong answer and sacrificing your health/mental well being is a horrible mistake imo.  Obviously if you want to be in NYC, do it.  But I don't think that's the end all be all, especially with the current state of affairs.

Your QOL will be far better based on COL. The whole notion of spend what you make and save your bonus baffles me.  I'm able to save over 50% of what I make before bonus (after tax) and still live very comfortably (1b1ba, never worry about nightlife/dinner costs, can buy whatever I want within reason, have a home gym setup, max out 401k and roth). Fwiw I also don't make BB NYC money either but I'm still happy. Also, I had an opportunity to relocate there within the last 2 months and said no because I don't think it is worth it anymore.  However, I don't see NYC ever being the same with HNW people leaving, skyrocketing crime, incompetent government, and the potential for future lockdowns 

 

Brand and pedigree matter unfortunately, whether you stay in finance or not. That BB on your resume will open a lot more doors for you down the line, even if you spend just a couple of years there, whether you choose to go MF PE or industry. Even with better deal experience at an MM, IMO a BB name sadly trumps that for a lot of opportunities. Same with being at a financial hub in NYC, more weight given for obvious reasons.

Choose the happier path, it might close off some doors for you but who tf cares, happiness trumps all. I've seen too many unhappy lifers who followed the above logic, got too comfortable with the $ and never left.

 

Go for the middle market. People will continue to tell you take the BB offer in NYC because they have continued to rationalize their unhappiness with their salary and prestige - while in reality NYC is gross, overpriced, cold af, and full of people who are absurdly ego centric. The cream will always rise to the top. It’s not like the MM is a bad job, you will still be I the top 95% of earners for your age group and it will open doors for you.

 

This very much depends the MM, your reasons for going to a southern city, and how comfortable you are accepting reality.

As other posters mentioned, a BB banking stint will give you credibility and understanding for life. If you can suffer through it for even a year, you could lateral to a low COL city with a higher paying, better wlb, job likely. As an undergrad, a year sounds like a long time, but it really isn’t. That said, if you have family or friends in a specific area in the south, want to build a life in the south, and the bank is a stronger mm—money and prestige isn’t everything and you will find your way.

For context, I rejected a strong BB for a strong MM and it was better for my career, life, and I had a better experience. I also know horror stories of terrible mm experiences however, so if the bank is a not great place, you will be shooting yourself in the foot for the future. Just anonymously state the name of the bank and I/ we could be more helpful.

 

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