Jobs with an expunged record
Hello everyone,
Im currently in college and looking to continue o pursue my goal in Financial and Investment planning...However having had a problem a few years ago with the law I am concerned at what problems I may face down the road with my past. 2 months after I turned 18 years old in high school I ran into some trouble with the law. A "friend" of mine was working at a local Sam's Club andhad been stealing credit cards that were lost and purchasing items, I was with him 2 of the times he did it (only knew of the one time he did it however) the second time I had no idea but I was never involved with it either I guess i was considered an "accessory". He was caught the second time and me being with him i got arrested as well. actually the kid was doing this for about 4 months but i was unlucky and was with him the 2nd time. Now my question is this, He was charged with 3 felonies, I was charged with 2 of the same counts as misdemeanors, theft with use of a credit card. I was asked to do 5 days community service and 2 years probation, which I served no problem and had my record completely EXPUNGED. I was told I will have no trouble getting a job in the future except that only govt jobs such as post office or police will be able to find my record doing a background check. I do know these type of things do to the NCIC, which Im concerned with. but even police officers tell me that getting a record like this is unlawful by accessing private information that had been sealed and destroyed. After finishing school and having this 5+ years behind me and expunged and never have done anything else wrong, will this affect me getting a job with a financial consulting firm or getting into the investment and securities fields? My lawyer even says I shouldnt have a problem and that I can put on an application that ive never been charged guilty with a felony or misdemeanor. which is true since it is considered expunged and not guilty.
Im worried as I head down this road since banks are pretty tough on security checks with backgrounds...should I really be concerned knowing this was a stupid thing I did when I was younger =/
pay to get a background check for yourself...there are tons of reputable websites. you'll see if it comes up or not. if it doesn't, you're in the clear, and if it does, not so great.
If it does come up, hire an attorney to make sure that it is off your record...
Unfortunately most major financial services companies are given the authority to do extensive background checks because of the ethics required to handle so much money. They (and by they I mean 3rd party background check firms) are typically given access to the FBI's criminal database which is another set of records kept and which fall outside the jurisdiction of state expungement (not a real word) policies. From what I have heard it can take years to have your record cleared at the FBI level and they have no legal requirement to do so.
Long /Short of it is, when you do a background check on yourself you will probably only have access to state records and so it shouldn't show up, but when the bank has the background check run it probably will. Have a good story ready and I highly doubt that there is anything that an lawyer will be able to help you out with unless your record was not cleared at the state level or unless you want to spend a lot of $ to have it removed from the FBI database.
Most normal companies (ie outside of financial services) typically do not have access to FBI records when they're conducting background checks.
Take it for all it's worth.
this is innacurate.
When you have an expungement granted you can have the same expungement ordered of deletion of your records served to the FBI. This doesnt take "years" as he says rather it does take some months.
Depending on the State you live in, you may have to personally serve the expungement order or I know of some states that actually have the state police do it.
Bottom line is if you have an expungement order and serve it to the FBI then they have to comply with deletion.
nah. Don't sweat it amigo. Firms ask you if you've ever been convicted of anything, so if you were convicted then you have to include it. The exception to this is if it was expunged. However, many people get arrested without ever having been convicted, you don't have to include this if it's the case (which I know it isn't for you).
Most misdemeanor (not felony) would not be included in FBI's database. Since your charges are expunged, most companies would not be able to find it out. However, since it is related to credit card theft, if I were you, I would still be ready to explain it whenever applying for a financial firm. Good luck!
great thanks everyone for the input I will speak to my lawyer some more and pull my own criminal record and see what it says, its been almost a year since the expungement so hopefully everything went through the databases cleanly, otherwise I have no problem pursuing it farther so I dont do all this work for nothing...
Just double check, but 99% sure no one will be able to see it (unless someone forgot to actually clear your record)
You're fine if they can't see the record. If they some how get a hold of the FBI records, as stated above, you are royally fucked. When they give you an offer letter they say that a misdemeanor is fine UNLESS said misdemeanor is a crime that involves some type of stealing or other bull shit involving personal information(obv the wording is wrong but you get the point). Good luck dude.
Hey, thank you for your sharing. Actually I am almost in the same case with you. Would you mind PM me? I really would like to hear your results and advice. Thanks again!
Did you get the job?
I had Felony Fraud Swindle on my record from running from a cab in college. I work for an investment banking firm now and they never saw it!
Just curious, do you work in CA or was it expunged in CA? Did you have to disclose it at all, even on the U4? Thanks!
I got my record expunged in 2005 from doing something stupid in 2000. I let my friend steal while working at Robinson's May. I got caught up, but I went to court and the judge could not find my file and my grandmother (a retired social worker with the county) was with me. The judge dropped it and took me off summary probation and cleared me to pay for my expungement. In 2014, I got a temp job with bank of America and had to do a fingerprint, I did tell them about it and got documentation and faxed it just in case and I still got the job.
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