Non target=no hope
Do I have any hope with this resume? I came late into the game because I initially wanted a career in marketing. I recently have worked hard to try to network my way in. Besides networking what else can I do to improve my chances?
Also this spring I will be studying abroad in a financial hub so I plan on working hard to get an internship there. Thank you in advance for helping me.
Your only hope is networking, that is all us non-targets have. Alumni book, google search, etc. Resume matters less when someone likes/forwards you.
i would try to get a non-ib finance job first and use that to leverage yourself and ofcourse while youre working, network as much as possible within the firm across depts
Be personable and nice to everyone you network with; do not come off as arrogant, cocky or a know-it-all. Build relationships with these people (conversations on markets and similar interests work well); they most likely will not go out of their way to vouch for you if you only contact them when you want something.
i would say for you....your experiences are lacking, doesnt matter about your university
Non Target != No Hope.
Non Target -> Work like crazy and claw your way in.
Thanks guys for all the help. So should I just give up and settle for F500 or Big 4 advisory and then try to network in from my first job?
There's no harm also in going for a spot in the middle office or back office and then doing an internal transfer after a year or two.
If you work with a front office group and they like you, that's better than having a Math PhD from Harvard.
you have nothing on here that says you have any real genuine interest or effort put forth to work in finance... so.. yeah...
Keep your head up. I'm graduating this Spring from a top 100 University (on a good day), and I've done it. Just have to work your ass off and leverage your network. And make sure this is something you're truly passionate about. Otherwise, you'll burn out...
Best of luck,
Ven
Thanks for the tips, and the encouragement Ven. I appreciate the help. Due to my late interest in investment banking, should I look in MSFs since that will give me an extra year to get more experience or would working at F500 then networking in be a better solution.
Are there any private equity firms or small, boutique IBs in your area? If so, reach out to them and offer to work for free. Tell them you're supplementing your coursework with a financial modeling program (Training the Street, etc), have a passion for finance, and are willing to do anything and everything.... the exposure is what you're looking for.
A lot of these places have extra desks and if you convince them you're intelligent and hard working enough to actually lend a hand, they'll throw one your way. Free for them. And in return, you'll get the exposure and connections you need. Especially if you get into a PE firm where you work with IBs all day long.
I worked my ass of getting a summer internship in NYC over the summer and that landed me an offer and opened a few doors, but then I went after a non-paid internship at a top tier($3bn+) PE firm and it's tripled by offers. Nothing like being able to email a banker asking about new-graduate opportunities and telling them you're currently staffed on their deal. Pretty much guarantees you an interview.
But again, all in all, you have to be truly passionate about this. I'm sure many will doubt my intentions but I have no reason to lie, and I can honestly say that the money isn't my main motivation for going into IB (obviously a factor). I love finance, I love business, and I see no better experience than to join a high-volume, competitive middle-market IB that gives me the opportunity to work directly with and learn from CEOs (many of whom are the founders and extremely passionate about their business).
If you're passionate and determined, you'll find a way. And always remember, if you're path is blocked... make your own.
Ven
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