People who are good with ladies

Blackhawks4's picture
Rank: Baboon | banana points 169

How do you do it? I am 21 and never really tried for girls until now and realize how pathetic I am. Messed up my chance with two very attractive girls by being a pussy. When ever I talk to an attractive girl all I can do is just have a conversation about school and stupid ass small talk.

I use tinder and get some decent matches and even brought a girl over who was very hot! I got scared and didn't do anything than.

I dress decent, am not fat, sort of athletic, many outgoing friends, gets invited to sorority functions, but I don't know how to get a girl.

How do you guys do it?

Comments (134)

Dec 30, 2014

Hopefully this information will be in the next WSO behavioral guide.

Dec 30, 2014

Actually, Hugh, I think this one is necessary in the technical guide.

Dec 30, 2014

Don't be a bro.

Don't use stupid pick up lines.

Have a sense of humor. Not like, know 15 different jokes that you can recite off the top of your head, but be natural.

Sarcastic joking seems to work pretty well. I don't know how many girls that I've called an ugly skank that just laugh it off.

Don't be a nervous idiot. Girls can smell fear. (Not really, they can smell your armpits that are drenched due to the thought of talking to a girl)

Have interests outside of work/school

When all else fails, just use Cosby's approach.

Dec 30, 2014
Skinnayyy:

Don't be a bro.

Don't use stupid pick up lines.

Have a sense of humor. Not like, know 15 different jokes that you can recite off the top of your head, but be natural.

Sarcastic joking seems to work pretty well. I don't know how many girls that I've called an ugly skank that just laugh it off.

Don't be a nervous idiot. Girls can smell fear. (Not really, they can smell your armpits that are drenched due to the thought of talking to a girl)

Have interests outside of work/school

When all else fails, just use Cosby's approach.

Second the "Cosby Special"

    • 1
Best Response
Dec 30, 2014

Listen buddy, I used to be in your shoes. Then, I discovered a formula.
You gotta start small.

1. Be nice to every girl, very friendly and outgoing (just don't worry about making a fool of yourself, girls like that), but don't just immediately go for the 8's and 9's. Start with their less attractive friends, the 4's-7's. Don't go for the ugly girls, because that will get you a bad rep. But a big mistake a lot of guys make is ignoring the average ones and going for the hot ones. The hot ones will see right through you and think you're just in it for the sex.

2. After having established multiple friend(with benefits)ships with the average girls, you'll get to know their hot friends. Don't drool over them, just hang out with them like you would your average friends. Joke around with them, be fun (very important), if you're fun, you don't even need to be attractive for them to keep coming back to you.

3. As time goes on, after you stopped sexual relations with the average ones, but you're still friends with them, you're fair game for their friends. Now here's where the formula comes in. You aren't just fair game, you're their next objective.If they like you, which, following step 2, they should, and they know that their less attractive friends have had you before, they want you. Now this may seem contrary to the mindset that you would think they have. However, here's where your behavior needs to change. Don't go out of your way to be charming to them, don't be clingy, treat them like a friend. Certainly don't ignore them and make an ass out of yourself, be a nice guy, but don't chase them. This is when they come chasing you. They'll start getting frustrated (in a good way). Why was it so easy for their less attractive friends to have you, but it's so hard for them. Are they as hot as they thought they were? Who are they? They'll start to question their own hotness, and what is the only thing that can redeem it, you ask? Your dick (Excuse the language).

4. Once they're clearly begging for it, the first thing you'll be thinking is, "Holy shit, I've got a 9 at the tip of my fingers. How in God's name did this happen?" Ignore those thoughts. Push them in the farthest corner of your mind, you don;t need them. Don't let her hotness intimidate you, she's after you, so YOU have the upper hand here Now this is when you need to start being charming, sweet, a nice guy to them. If you play your cards correctly, you'll be in bed with her in no time. Next thing you know, you're the guy who sleeps with the hot girls, and it's a domino effect. Everything gets easier from here. Just remain confident in everything you do and know that you deserve to be there.

Hope my formula helped. It's pretty simp really. Just a little bit of psychology.

CFOinTraining

If you can take it, you can make it.

    • 6
Learn More

Side-by-side comparison of top modeling training courses + exclusive discount through WSO here.

Mar 17, 2016
Investerest:

Listen buddy, I used to be in your shoes. Then, I discovered a formula.You gotta start small.

1. Be nice to every girl, very friendly and outgoing (just don't worry about making a fool of yourself, girls like that), but don't just immediately go for the 8's and 9's. Start with their less attractive friends, the 4's-7's. Don't go for the ugly girls, because that will get you a bad rep. But a big mistake a lot of guys make is ignoring the average ones and going for the hot ones. The hot ones will see right through you and think you're just in it for the sex.

2. After having established multiple friend(with benefits)ships with the average girls, you'll get to know their hot friends. Don't drool over them, just hang out with them like you would your average friends. Joke around with them, be fun (very important), if you're fun, you don't even need to be attractive for them to keep coming back to you.

3. As time goes on, after you stopped sexual relations with the average ones, but you're still friends with them, you're fair game for their friends. Now here's where the formula comes in. You aren't just fair game, you're their next objective.If they like you, which, following step 2, they should, and they know that their less attractive friends have had you before, they want you. Now this may seem contrary to the mindset that you would think they have. However, here's where your behavior needs to change. Don't go out of your way to be charming to them, don't be clingy, treat them like a friend. Certainly don't ignore them and make an ass out of yourself, be a nice guy, but don't chase them. This is when they come chasing you. They'll start getting frustrated (in a good way). Why was it so easy for their less attractive friends to have you, but it's so hard for them. Are they as hot as they thought they were? Who are they? They'll start to question their own hotness, and what is the only thing that can redeem it, you ask? Your dick (Excuse the language).

4. Once they're clearly begging for it, the first thing you'll be thinking is, "Holy shit, I've got a 9 at the tip of my fingers. How in God's name did this happen?" Ignore those thoughts. Push them in the farthest corner of your mind, you don;t need them. Don't let her hotness intimidate you, she's after you, so YOU have the upper hand here Now this is when you need to start being charming, sweet, a nice guy to them. If you play your cards correctly, you'll be in bed with her in no time. Next thing you know, you're the guy who sleeps with the hot girls, and it's a domino effect. Everything gets easier from here. Just remain confident in everything you do and know that you deserve to be there.

Hope my formula helped. It's pretty simp really. Just a little bit of psychology.

CFOinTraining

Never Happened.

Dec 30, 2014
Blackhawks4:

I use tinder and get some decent matches and even brought a girl over who was very hot! I got scared and didn't do anything than.

We can lead you to water, but if you aren't willing to drink the results will be the same. The possibility of getting rejected or actually getting rejected isn't a pleasant experience, but not going for it has led to the same result without the possibility of getting any. You just need to accept the possibility of losing. More realistically you just need to go for it and fail a few times to take the sting out of it, who knows maybe you'll get lucky in the process. It's that simple. Keep in mind, if she's at your place it's for a reason. On some level she's already said yes, she wants you to go for it so she can say yes.

If you guys keep this shit up @"DickFuld" is going to have to set-up an endowment fund and just pay for a few professionals to get it over with.

Dec 30, 2014
ArcherVice:

If you guys keep this shit up @DickFuld is going to have to set-up an endowment fund and just pay for a few professionals to get it over with.

I could just give the guy a fish, of course. But I'd rather that he learns how to fish.

This kind of stuff never ceases to amaze me.

Dec 30, 2014
DickFuld:
ArcherVice:

If you guys keep this shit up @DickFuld is going to have to set-up an endowment fund and just pay for a few professionals to get it over with.

I could just give the guy a fish, of course. But I'd rather that he learns how to fish.

This kind of stuff never ceases to amaze me.

You know what they say - 'you could make a guy learn how to fish, but he will still support/vote for the guy that just gives him the fish'..

Dec 30, 2014

I was thinking - being the devout philanthropists that we are - we'd get a tax write-off. Would anyone question the veracity of our charitable donations?

Mar 17, 2016

With all the recent stories of WSO guys getting raped with a divorce, not sure it is a good idea to break the ice.

Mar 17, 2016

wat

Mar 17, 2016

bhahahaha, i think your problems lie a little deeper than breaking the ice my friend.

Mar 17, 2016

Write a book, so no one will be foreve alone.

The Four E's of investment
"The greatest Enemies of the Equity investor are Expenses and Emotions."- Warren Buffet

Mar 17, 2016

Sounds like a severe case a douchebagitis. Also, why the hell did you post it here?

Mar 17, 2016

This is actually good advice for some people, not all of whom are assholes. Oftentimes shy or quiet people aren't naturally friendly and get unfairly pegged as assholes when they may be really nice people.

Mar 17, 2016

things i've learned about women since i moved out of my parents house last year:
1. Its a percentage game
2. dont allow a girlfriend to slowly move her belongings into your house
3. smile with your eyes and they can't keep up their defences for long
4. tactfully be touchy feely
5. respond to text messages in a flurry and then disappear for a few days
6. go to the gym
7. find out what she is into and do research about it (but maybe that is just the consultant in me manifesting itself lol)

Get it!

Mar 17, 2016
ConanDBull:

things i've learned about women since i moved out of my parents house last year:
1. Its a percentage game
2. dont allow a girlfriend to slowly move her belongings into your house
3. smile with your eyes and they can't keep up their defences for long
4. tactfully be touchy feely
5. respond to text messages in a flurry and then disappear for a few days
6. go to the gym
7. find out what she is into and do research about it (but maybe that is just the consultant in me manifesting itself lol)

good shit...take notes monkeys

Mar 17, 2016

.

Mar 17, 2016
Mar 17, 2016

^^hahaha...the chick was like ive seen better

Dec 30, 2014

God almighty ... we almost made it to the end of the year

    • 2
Dec 30, 2014
adapt or die:

God almighty ... we almost made it to the end of the year

ding ding ding

    • 1
Mar 17, 2016

STALK MUCH?

i think you need to lie down on a couch and talk to a pro, bro.

Mar 17, 2016

WTF

...the new Poll made me laugh though

Mar 17, 2016

Ok, first of all you dont need to 'impress' her. However, you have to grow balls and go up to her when you see her and ask her "are you single?". Be direct. Don't ask her if she has a bf or if she wants to hangout or whatever, just ask her if she is single.

Then, if she says yes, give her your phone (physically) and tell her to insert her number, and you will give her a call sometime next week for lunch or something. The reason you do not just want to ask for her number is because it gives her a chance to say "no". When you give her your phone and ask her if she has a number, of course the answer is yes (all of us have phones). Simple sales psychology.

Dont be a pussy.

Mar 17, 2016

Wow.

Mar 17, 2016

You need to impress her by running faster than everyone else, obviously.

Perhaps making some derisive comments about the trainer to assert dominance in the group.

Mar 17, 2016
Dpietru:

You need to impress her by running faster than everyone else, obviously.

Perhaps making some derisive comments about the trainer to assert dominance in the group.

LOLOL HAHAHAHAHAHA. Eff'ing great.

Mar 17, 2016
DiPietro:

You need to impress her by running faster than everyone else, obviously.

Perhaps making some derisive comments about the trainer to assert dominance in the group.

LO FING L I farted and semi scharted when i read this

Mar 17, 2016

Why are you asking this here? Isn't there some pre-med forum that you could ask? Are you trying to confront her ibanking boyfriend?

Mar 17, 2016

this is the stupidest thing i have ever read on this site. if you have to ask how to impress this girl on wsoasis, then you are definitely not going to get her.

Mar 17, 2016

"You need to impress her by running faster than everyone else, obviously."

Double lol.

Mar 17, 2016
b333b:

i like a girl. never met her but she is hot. there is a personal trainer who created a facebook group to get people to pay to run with him in the park. and this girl joined. and she said she might even come one of these sundays. it doesnt cost that much to attend once a week in hopes of seeing her, though im not one of those dorks who needs to pay for fitness training(im in good shape i swear).
and so i logged on here because it sucks so much. i mean there is no guarantee i'll ever see her and thats the only way to hit on her. and i must wait for sunday in hopes of seeing her. and if i do see her, i'll have only 1 chance to impress her. so waiting for some tips for next sunday.

oh and i also wanted to make a rant. i am a student. i am studying for mcat that im taking in 2-3wks. and so im not a lazy bum. but looking through facebook i notice some interesting patterns. like there is a guy who graduated from a ttt and works in something ttt like insurance sales but he describes it like investment banking. and he does have a nice car. so he sometimes gets messages on his walls from models asking him about his car or "how is life? we should catch up" and his reply "oh i see you're back on the market". and he is fat and short. while the only students who get attention from model looking girls are the type who are really really cool(and a bunch of other positive qualities). and i wouldnt be pissed about that "banker" if he had real money. but the truth is he doesnt. and i have nothing. ;(

magic

Mar 17, 2016

People like b333b give the internet a bad rap.

"Oh - the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion?"

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.

Mar 17, 2016

u gotta be shitting me
just tell this bitch you want to bone

Mar 17, 2016

Please tell me this post is a joke..

Mar 17, 2016

start the convo like this:

so i was looking at pics of you on facebook...

Mar 17, 2016
ab123:

start the convo like this:

so i was looking at pics of you on facebook...

ab123 is right, excellent ice breaker

Mar 17, 2016

strap on your timbs and go for a run sunnn. you're the man b333b and don't let that ttt mofo get you down ;)

ps def pm me if this girl is dumb enough not to bite...

Mar 17, 2016

so i was looking at pics of you on facebook...

...and the guys on Wall Street Oasis said that I should ask you out....

Mar 17, 2016

whip it out and see if she digs it

Mar 17, 2016

How awesome would it be if this advice was just blindly followed by the OP?

Mar 17, 2016

doesnt seem like i received any advice at all. i went there and it was just pathetic. there were 0 girls. only the guy's 2 male friends showed up. so that guy is worthless... i think it's pointless to look for that girl to show up, never going to happen. i guess the only way to hit on her is through facebook. i guess to do that i need to have something organized like a volleyball game or a party. but i need to study for mcat 24/7 these 2wks.
on the other hand when i run in the park at random times i always see some hot girls. but it's much harder to hit on girls when you're not in some kind of common group. and while i can see a lot of cute girls, it's rare that i see girls this hot.

Mar 17, 2016
b333b:

doesnt seem like i received any advice at all. i went there and it was just pathetic. there were 0 girls. only the guy's 2 male friends showed up. so that guy is worthless... i think it's pointless to look for that girl to show up, never going to happen. i guess the only way to hit on her is through facebook. i guess to do that i need to have something organized like a volleyball game or a party. but i need to study for mcat 24/7 these 2wks.
on the other hand when i run in the park at random times i always see some hot girls. but it's much harder to hit on girls when you're not in some kind of common group. and while i can see a lot of cute girls, it's rare that i see girls this hot.

I spit my soda when I read that.

Mar 17, 2016

haha how creepy would that be. Guy asks a random chick "hey do you want to come to my house and play some volleyball? Make sure you wear something tight."

Mar 17, 2016
b333b:

though im not one of those dorks who needs to pay for fitness training(im in good shape i swear).

I like how his definition of "dork" is someone who pays for fitness training - certainly not someone who comes to internet messageboards asking for stalking advice.

b333b, I can definitely sympathize with your frustrations though. Why should some short and fat, "ttt" graduate be able to land super hot girls with his fancy car and charming wit? I mean, when guys like you and I run the world, we'll make sure that all the girls are classified according to their attractiveness and doled out accordingly.

All the 9's and 10's will go to the lawyers, doctors, bankers and PE studs. Presuming of course, you went to a first rate school. The 7's and 8's will go to the other first-rate guys pursuing slightly less noble professions, and the 6's and below we'll reserve for the "ttt" guys, non-college graduates, and the homeless.

Let's you and me draw up a plan to get put into an office of power here.

Mar 17, 2016

please tell me this thread is not serious..

Mar 17, 2016

it is. Look at this guy's other posts, they're all retarded.

Mar 17, 2016

Greatest thing I read all day. Even better than finding out that half the Hamptons is still available.

Mar 17, 2016
ginNtonic:

Greatest thing I read all day. Even better than finding out that half the Hamptons is still available.

What do you say you, me and b333b over here rent one in East Hampton and start Facebook stalking some girls/house guests? I'll set up the volleyball.

In all seriousness, I did look at getting a summer house with some friends and it fell through...

Mar 17, 2016

I think you got carried away... You mistakenly wrote IBD guys get 10s.... We both know that its the PE guys who get 10s, then the HF guys get 9s, and THEN the IBD guys... Bulge bracket Janitors get 4s, and McKinsey guys get 2s or 3s, depending on how many Bear employees are retained by JPM and whom like women.

Mar 17, 2016

This made me laugh so hard! This guy is so CREEPY!! omg omg omg, I have random guys email me on facebook and I always delete the email. Especially when there's a major creepy factor!!!!!

********"Babies don't cost money, they MAKE money." - Jerri Blank********

********"Babies don't cost money, they MAKE money." - Jerri Blank********

Mar 17, 2016

It IS creepy... I've rec'd random guy emails on Facebook too, the most recent from a fella in Turkey. I ignore/delete these Facebook messages. Anyways, but I made sure my profile settings are set so private that random people shouldn't be able to see my picture, let alone send me a message etc. So I ask myself, how do these men find me?!? Bizarre.

Mar 17, 2016

haha great post, made my day.

Remember, you will always be a salesman, no matter how fancy your title is.
- My ex girlfriend

Mar 17, 2016

hey i have no time to address any other posts. but aadpepsi and atropolation-you really think someone like me would message someone like you? hahaha.

Mar 17, 2016
b333b:

hey i have no time to address any other posts. but aadpepsi and atropolation-you really think someone like me would message someone like you? hahaha.

hehe, given your obvious psychotic tendencies when it comes to females, I think we can all imagine you doing just this

Mar 17, 2016

Well a Facebook message would be too direct (otherwise he would have sent a message to this chick already). I picture him more as the silent killer type.

Mar 17, 2016

i think your best options given information you have provided are left hand and right hand.

you might want to throw in a "stranger" from time to time, to keep things exciting.

Mar 17, 2016
fzjgdk:

i think your best options given information you have provided are left hand and right hand.

you might want to throw in a "stranger" from time to time, to keep things exciting.

Karot:

Get a dog, he'll love you more.

Hahahahahah. Love it.
The dog isn't a bad idea. Most girls (hookers included) love puppies so much they'll be coming over to talk to you without any effort on your part. Just don't be a psycho right away...but later is okay.

Mar 17, 2016

LOL :-)

Nice banter fellas.

Mar 17, 2016

Ok... I do this from time to time, its so easy it feels wrong. I wear some extra-tight bicycle shorts which I put on and stuff 2 rolled up socks down my crotch, take a 3rd sock and roll it into a tube and strategically place it between your thigh and extra tight bike shorts so its down to about 2 inches above your knee. Go for a run in the park, and when you see your choice lady, run directly behind her so her hand, when swinging back touches your crotch. Once she turns around to see what her hand has hit, take the 2 socks out of your shorts, pre-soaked in chloroform and ball sweat, and smother her mouth and nose until you feel her body stop writhing in resistance.... best when done at night.

Mar 17, 2016
Marcus_Halberstram:

Ok... I do this from time to time, its so easy it feels wrong. I wear some extra-tight bicycle shorts which I put on and stuff 2 rolled up socks down my crotch, take a 3rd sock and roll it into a tube and strategically place it between your thigh and extra tight bike shorts so its down to about 2 inches above your knee. Go for a run in the park, and when you see your choice lady, run directly behind her so her hand, when swinging back touches your crotch. Once she turns around to see what her hand has hit, take the 2 socks out of your shorts, pre-soaked in chloroform and ball sweat, and smother her mouth and nose until you feel her body stop writhing in resistance.... best when done at night.

lets say i was new to the new york area. where, if your opinion, is the best place to get rid of the body when my choice lady's services are through?

Mar 17, 2016

Under b333b's beach volleyball court in his backyard.... if there's any room left.

Mar 17, 2016

I'm convinced this kid killed himself...and probably one or two other people after reading the thread again.

Mar 17, 2016

Get a dog, he'll love you more.

Mar 17, 2016

fzjgdk - 'stranger' post...classic.. i laughed so hard i was crying

Marcus_Halberstram - the chloroform idea, perfect for this kid.

Mar 17, 2016

You should go to where she does laundry. Take a few articles of her clothing while she isn't looking (undergarments obvs) and cut them up to make little letters. Paste them onto pieces of paper to write her a romantic love note.

If this doesn't get her attention, repeat the above move... but use her flesh instead of undergarments.

Good luck Romeo!

Either you sling crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot

Either you sling crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot

Mar 17, 2016

laughing hysterically.. funniest shit I've ever read on here

Mar 17, 2016

Show her your rod of steel.

Mar 17, 2016

Hahaha wow

Mar 17, 2016

b333b has to be a forum troll. No question.

Mar 17, 2016

Where the fuck do these guys come from? Is there some central location where kids with degrees from Ivy League schools that have never spoken to a girl let alone have been laid just reproduce? I'm curious because I see these posts all the time and they are the saddest things...

Mar 17, 2016
Boutique Banking:

Where the fuck do these guys come from? Is there some central location where kids with degrees from Ivy League schools that have never spoken to a girl let alone have been laid just reproduce? I'm curious because I see these posts all the time and they are the saddest things...

Is there some central location where they manufacture kids who can't grasp sarcasm?

Mar 17, 2016

I actually found this post to be quite humorous.

Mar 17, 2016

Money. Women are impressed by money no matter what they say. I once went out in a family friends LP640 and every woman was looking and smiling. I was like yeah, that's right.

And yes, I agree, I also hate it when people who sell CD's for a living claim to be in investment banking.

Mar 17, 2016

b333b = blumie.

This is a theory I've been postulating for a little while. Basically, since I started reading some of blumie's posts, I've been getting a sense of deja vu. Found some of this guy's threads. Similarities.

Mar 17, 2016

Post is funny, but I hope the OP is joking.

Mar 17, 2016

Be yourself. Don't think about it so much.

Mar 17, 2016
Learn More

Side-by-side comparison of top modeling training courses + exclusive discount through WSO here.

Dec 30, 2014

Be 100% willing to walk away at the drop of a hat, under any circumstance, and you're good.

    • 1
Jan 2, 2015
Stryfe:

Be 100% willing to walk away at the drop of a hat, under any circumstance, and you're good.

+1.

Dec 30, 2014

Find a very attractive girl. Become her friend. Profit from her friends.

Biggest thing for girls is that they want to trust and feel comfortable. There isn't a faster way for that to happen other than their good friend vouching for you.

    • 1
Dec 30, 2014

Not exactly. If the hot girl friend-zones you, then the less attractive girls will expect to be able to friend-zone you as well.

Advice by @"CFOinTraining" has worked for me.

Incoming Ash Ketchum, Pokemon Master
Literally a problem, solve for both X and Y, please and thank you.
Hugh Myron: "Are there any guides on here for getting a top girlfriend? Think banker/lawyer/doctor. I really don't want to go mid-tier"

Dec 30, 2014
Red3:

Not exactly. If the hot girl friend-zones you, then the less attractive girls will expect to be able to friend-zone you as well.

Advice by @CFOinTraining has worked for me.

Well, agreed. Its important that there's some sort of interest but you establish that its strictly friend-zone. TBH, I'm a pretty firm believer that girls and guys are really only friends because there is some sort of attraction whether they want to admit it or not.

I have seen girls bring around goofy guys that they would never hook up with though, but I think that's more of a charity case than anything else.

Dec 30, 2014

Whoa. A thread like this on Wso?! I'm shocked.

Start rolling out with the biggest ass holes you can find. You'll learn in no time fast.

Mar 11, 2016

Agreed pm this. While I think CFOs advice makes sense, it doesn't get to the root of the problem. At 21 if you've fallen behind the average person in terms of getting laid etc. it's like a vicious cycle. Simply changing behavior without getting to changing your inner confidence won't work. Girls can smell it on you regardless. Hang around some guys who get laid or have a steady girlfriend on campus. Examine the bass in their voice and their general interactions with girls. They are manly. They exude some testosterone. The stink of pussy is on them which attracts more pussy. Its a cycle or domino effect. I suggest hanging with some guy friends like this. Focus on girls that arent so hot but average looking. But focus more so on boosting your own male energy. Also, stay away from porn. It distorts your mindset and makes you idolize women. They're only human.

Dec 30, 2014

Become a Golden Gloves boxing champ. But be careful when you go to work!

    • 2
Dec 31, 2014

This.

OP should also look into a career in tech sales if he wants to be touched by supermodels.

    • 2
Dec 30, 2014

become a sadboy. it is the only way

heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

    • 2
Dec 30, 2014

You keep posting this video, are you a promoter or something?

Incoming Ash Ketchum, Pokemon Master
Literally a problem, solve for both X and Y, please and thank you.
Hugh Myron: "Are there any guides on here for getting a top girlfriend? Think banker/lawyer/doctor. I really don't want to go mid-tier"

    • 1
Dec 30, 2014
Red3:

You keep posting this video, are you a promoter or something?

im just a lonely sadboy drifting through this leanworld

heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

    • 1
Dec 30, 2014

or Batman

    • 1
    • 1
Dec 30, 2014

Go to a random place. start conversations with random men and women. talk to a woman. Depending on where the conversation goes, set up a date, then get the number. Sometimes you will be in the zone and not give a damn if you get rejected, that's fine, but don't try to pick up all the woman in the same location at once. ie. going from woman to woman at the same bar.

    • 1
Dec 30, 2014

send dick pics after two texts on tinder.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays

Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne

    • 1
    • 1
Dec 30, 2014

You'd be surprised...

    • 1
Dec 30, 2014

Yesterday some really good looking girl matched with me and messaged me first to ask me about my school. When I described it to her she really wants to transfer and said she has to come down and party with me. Then she continued to the conversation and then said talk to you tomorrow.

Do I wait for her to message or me message first?

    • 1
Dec 30, 2014

Girl wants to meet you at your school. Go out of her way alone... to get drunk and party.

FFS.

    • 1
Dec 30, 2014

Lol

    • 1
Dec 31, 2014

Its actually quite simple -- there are really four things you need to do

Make a girl smile and laugh
Make her feel good about herself
Stimulate her mentally
Stimulate her physically (affection and sex)

If you can do those four things you're golden.

Also, if you have a huge cock, doing what heister suggested can seal the deal. But most likely if you have a huge cock you won't have any confidence issues. God knows I don't.

Booooom.

    • 1
    • 2
Dec 30, 2014

You could also go with the indirect approach. This probably only works for Halloween though.

My friends were in for halloween and none of us had halloween costumes so my friends being who they are... we all put on my fiance's old halloween costumes (slutty nurse, slutty maid, slutty bunny). My friend wearing the slutty nurse costume got extra done up. Full makeup and everything.

Girls were approaching him and he got 4 numbers with out doing a damn thing!

    • 1
Dec 31, 2014

The key is meeting people organically. Tinder is good to an extent, since it's a relatively small time investment to potentially meet someone.

Other than Tinder, try to leverage your friends' girlfriends (GFOF). I make sure to meet them and I show them what a great guy I am (building a foundation). Then, in passing, I mention that I have been going on dates. Tell story about bad date, but sure you look like a hero. Girls love to hate on other girls they don't know. (Example, took a girl to jazz club, she talked about her cats the whole time and made up some lame excuse to leave because "her friend is having surgery and needs emotional support" after 45 minutes). GFOF now hates her and thinks that I deserve better blah blah (DO NOT ASK ABOUT SINGLE FRIENDS, IT NEEDS TO BE HER IDEA)... the GFOF will start looking at her single friends, and say, hey I know this great guy - you should go out with him and boom.. double dates.

Jan 1, 2015

Have a 1-on-1 with a respected instructor in the PU community (be careful, there are a lot of scam artists out there, but some are legit). Chances are there are a lot of issues beyond the technical (it's not about what you say or the tactics) -- a pro can tear apart your body language, fashion, confidence, verbals, approach anxiety, etc.

    • 2
Jan 1, 2015

PM me if you live in LA

    • 2
Dec 30, 2014

ha. haha. haha. ha. ha.

    • 1
Jan 1, 2015

Quite frankly, there's a much better source than most of us here. Our expertise is business, not dating.

Go on Youtube and look up a dude who goes by the name of "Player Supreme" His advice is more targeted at player types than daters,but implementing his ideas about the dating game into my own dating philosophies netted me a relationship(now marriage) that is everything I ever dreamed of and more.

edit: And don't call him a PUA. He takes major offense at that for good reason.

Dec 30, 2014
Gene-Capocasale:

Quite frankly, there's a much better source than most of us here. Our expertise is business, not dating.

Go on Youtube and look up a dude who goes by the name of "Player Supreme" His advice is more targeted at player types than daters,but implementing his ideas about the dating game into my own dating philosophies netted me a relationship(now marriage) that is everything I ever dreamed of and more.

edit: And don't call him a PUA. He takes major offense at that for good reason.

LOL
Can you guys smell this shit? STINKY

heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

Jan 1, 2015
GoldenCinderblock:

Can you guys smell this shit? STINKY

Watch the videos and decide for yourself if what he says makes sense.

Dec 30, 2014
Gene-Capocasale:

Quite frankly, there's a much better source than most of us here. Our expertise is business, not dating.

Go on Youtube and look up a dude who goes by the name of "Player Supreme" His advice is more targeted at player types than daters,but implementing his ideas about the dating game into my own dating philosophies netted me a relationship(now marriage) that is everything I ever dreamed of and more.

edit: And don't call him a PUA. He takes major offense at that for good reason.

player supreme will think this new years' is special coz of all the traffic coming to him from WSO..

Jan 1, 2015

To elaborate on the OP's question, my specific mindset is as follows.

Just as with trying to get a job, it's a marketing challenge and you are the product. First, compare what you have to offer against the kind of girl you like. If there's a disparity then you need to develop those qualities within yourself and (even more importantly) learn how to advertise them effectively. How you do this varies slightly depending on how you like to get out there(e.g. Tinder is all about good pictures).

Second, you need to implement the 80/20 rule and invest time ONLY in women that demonstrate a strong interest in you. Apply the "Tim Tebow" rule, which is as follows. When a lady doesn't want to dance, flakes out, doesn't return calls, etc ask yourself "would she have done that if I were Tim Tebow or another famous athlete/actor?" If no then stop wasting your time. What this means in practice is that if you are online then only talk to girls who put some effort into their emails and respond in a reasonable timeframe. If you're in a club or out and about then you ONLY approach girls who make friendly eye contact(it takes some practice to tell the difference between shy and "not interested).

It saves your time and energy. If she's interested from the start then all you have to do is not sound like a goober when you open your mouth.

Apply the same philosophy in relationships. Every bad relationship I've had was with people who would have left if I hadn't chased, and the best ones were all with people that I didn't have to chase.

    • 3
    • 1
Jan 2, 2015

I watched one Player Supreme video ( http://youtu.be/JYE3kRrHTno ) and can see the analogy of bottom-bitches = managers, hoes = players (in sports).

Jan 1, 2015

The popular PUA videos you see on youtube is just marketing, it's all flash. And no I'm not a PUA, but one of my close friends used to be active in the community.

    • 1
Jan 1, 2015
Calo23:

The popular PUA videos you see on youtube is just marketing, it's all flash. And no I'm not a PUA, but one of my close friends used to be active in the community.

They're worse than "just marketing". I have some friends who used to be a part of that and their "systems" are designed to appeal to people with very logical, computer programmer type brains. The idea is that if you just run up to every girl out there and use a pre-scripted conversation, then you will get the right result....just like programming.

When you get people charging several grand for weekend "bootcamps", it's a fraud and not just marketing. They know it too, but the harsh truth of dating (that women choose men and that no smooth words will change their minds) simply doesn't sell.

Jan 1, 2015

Tim Tebow rule? LOL

Dec 30, 2014

You can Google "how to calculate a DCF" but won't know everything about DCFs on the first day of work.

You can Google "how to hit on a girl" but won't know everything about holding a girl's attention on the first date.

The concept of "work experience" exists for a reason. Go out there and talk to more girls!

Incoming Ash Ketchum, Pokemon Master
Literally a problem, solve for both X and Y, please and thank you.
Hugh Myron: "Are there any guides on here for getting a top girlfriend? Think banker/lawyer/doctor. I really don't want to go mid-tier"

Jan 1, 2015
Red3:

You can Google "how to calculate a DCF but won't know everything about DCFs on the first day of work.

You can Google "how to hit on a girl" but won't know everything about holding a girl's attention on the first date.

The concept of "work experience" exists for a reason. Go out there and talk to more girls!

^This. PUA (and the systems they teach) is like giving you a set of training wheels, it forces you to go out there and grind it out (and there are a lot of guys who want to talk and approach more girls in their lives but never commit to the grind). You are going to look like an idiot at first but once you become accustomed to the grind, you can take off the training wheels and do what feels natural. But I'm guessing if the OP could grind it out he wouldn't be posting his worries here.

Jan 2, 2015

The basic formula and basis for many of the previous suggestions here is, "Act As If", it works in business and real life. Don't lie or completely BS people, but have the confidence via Acting As If you have seen all this, had all this, and it's all just another day at the office.

Jan 2, 2015

I think it really comes down to (1) being confident (2) not coming off as arrogant but knowing in your own mind you can have it (3) having no fear of being rejected (4) have social skills and (5) know when to cut your losses and move to the next one, eventually you will find one, especially in college!

First thing you need to do is find a girl and start talking to her. Ask her about herself, talk to her about her interests and if she is interested, you can start to open her up. Try and get her to talk about herself a lot and seem genuinely interested.

In order to be confident though you have to look good and care about your body and physical appearance. Hitting the gym 3-5 times a week and have some sort of muscular appearance will elevate your confidence and hopefully testosterone levels to get you performing like a beast

Dec 30, 2014

I just started seriously lifting and it gives me the best feeling ever. Maybe I just lacked testosterone because I have 0 aggression I was told. I just started the ICF 5x5 at the end of school but was just doing push ups and abs home over the break though I lost some weight and strength from the flu

Jan 2, 2015

Same, working out gives you a natural high. I agree it's one of the best feelings in life, 2nd to having sex. Try getting a workout and then going to have sex soon after, thats the best feeling (I don't do drugs so can't compare to that). I think making money independently and working out are tied for second. Feels great to make money trading, betting on sports or playing hold'em.

I just feel so much better when I am working out 4-5 times a week, which helps all aspects of life. It's important to feel good!

    • 2
Mar 11, 2016

See my comment below. PM me.

Mar 11, 2016

frankly, just apply everywhere. as long as you're not stellar it will still be very random for you.
hit on anything which you may want to sleep with. it's a # game.
if you're

Mar 12, 2016

Ok, I just read the thread. While some of it has me scratching my head, CFO's advice is good stuff.

If you still can't close and put women on a pedestal despite all efforts - just own being a beta in relationships to the fullest extent possible and you will have success if its done the right way. I'm NOT saying this as a "bad" thing, it's just a different approach and you will be targeting a specific type of woman who is usually at least a 6 or 7 with the moral compass of Lindsay Lohan. My friend Tom gets an insane amount of tail for being the most beta guy I know. He finds the porn star/stripper/instagram model/pregnant single mother, takes her in, pays all her bills (obviously in an unspoken exchange where she is earning her keep), and worships her until she decides to move on. Once she's gone he betas his way into the charms of another woman looking to use him for some gain or another: lather, rinse, repeat. Could he date these women long-term? Probably not. Should he date these women long term? Definitely not. Thus, he has zero problem with it and views it as his own "strategy".

Eventually he'll probably find some imported model who must marry or be deported, will lock it down so she can stay, and she will spend her days living off him in exchange for performing her wifely duties. He's about a 5 or 6, so locking down an 8 would be a solid win.

    • 1