Please stop whining about working hours

I am sure that I am not the only one, but I am getting so tired of reading about all does people whining loud about the working hours on both the buy-side and sell-side.

Examples of whining articles:

https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/2021/03/ap…

https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/2018/01/wo…

https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/2021/03/wo…

Am I the only one?

The topic is relevant, but there are topics which are much more relevant to focus on.

 

Lol

Currently, I am working on the buy-side and before that I worked in M&A. Got headhunted to a top buy-side firm due to my strong work performance 😊

I take an entrepreneurial approach to my job. I work long hours just like successful entrepreneurs and I get rewarded in line with this effort.

 

bigfrezzzer

I take an entrepreneurial approach to my job. I work long hours just like successful entrepreneurs and I get rewarded in line with this effort.

Anybody who says this is a delusional loser who needs to meet face to face with reality.

Next thing you know, you'll be launching a "start-up" with other desparate people who have grand illusions of being the next [Name a Tech Billionaire] but don't know how to run shit. Just complain about "why you can't get funded by legit VCs"

 
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It's warranted imo. Much more is required of junior deal team members today than it was 20 - 40 years ago. Just think of all the information that is available through technology. You think Henry Kravis had CapIQ, bloomberg, excel, and was competing in highly competitive auction processes when he was an associate? I don't think so. You think Steve Swharzman had a blackberry to check every night when he went home? In fact, in his book he talks about how he didn't even know what a Balance sheet was when he was an analyst and how he would frequentyl have dinner after work at another associate's house. Yet he was a partner when he was in his early 30s. None of that is happening today for anyone. 

Bottom line. Much more is required today from junior deal team members, and they are working on much tighter timelines than ever before. Yeah they're allowed to complain. 

 

More than Boomers? Sure, dramatically. It's a borderline truism for anyone who knows anything about the industry. However, outside of the recent changes due to WFH orders, things have been roughly the same for the past 20 years. In my experience, the ones that complain the most are the ones that vastly overestimate their own value. 

 

I'd be with you, except just today on this forum and the finmeme accounts there's been reports of multiple banks upping compensation (or at the very least, increasing the % base of compensation) and that absolutely has everything to do with the GS 13 and related publicity (i.e. what you call "whining"). It's making hundreds or thousands of us monkeys better off and none of us worse off - why are you so irritated lol?

 

Lol unless you've specifically been in the environment 2/3s of the articles you've listed mention, then you can't really opine on this. The complaints go beyond the money (which I assume is what you're basing your argument on that people should shut up) and have to do more with the psychological hit you take working there. Feel free to PM me if you want more info on this

 

If you try to make others happy, I think you’ll end up being made happy in return too. What goes around comes around

 

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