Return to Office - Quick Survey for PE Associates/Senior Associates
As we go back to the office, wanted to take a quick survey.
1) Size of your shop (MF/UMM/MM/LMM) and location
2) Base + Target Bonus
3) Do you get your own office or cubicle?
4) Travel schedule pre-pandemic (times travelled per month)? Travel schedule post-pandemic? Do you get to fly first class/business? Does your firm fly a private jet?
5) Number of portfolio companies covered. General responsibilities?
6) Usual hours M-Th, Fr, and Sa/Sun
7) Vacations per year and length of vacations
I'll start.
1) Size: Right between MM and LMM and a Tier 2 city
2) Comp: 100k + 100k
3) Office: Associates get their own office
4) Travel: 1x per month. Few associates travelled during covid. Expected a big return back to travel. First class allowed. No private jet
5) PortCos: 3 PortCos covered. Quarterly valuations, general reporting, attend board meetings, add-on M&A.
6) Hours: M-Th 9:30am-8pm, F: 9:30-5pm, 5-7 hours total on weekends
7) Vacation: 2 Vacations but haven't taken it yet
Dawg what. Those hours are amazing + first class travel? Y’all hiring?
downsides: comp is nothing crazy (but you won't get better in the area). partners can be isolated. no real culture.
Fund size if you don't mind?
5 hundo raised early this year
1) Size of your shop (MF/UMM/MM/LMM) and location - MF in NYC
2) Base + Target Bonus - $120k + $275k ($240k cash) based on A2 figures from last year
3) Do you get your own office or cubicle? Open floor plan (only partners have offices)
4) Travel schedule pre-pandemic (times travelled per month)? Travel schedule post-pandemic? Do you get to fly first class/business? Does your firm fly a private jet? - 1-2x on average, upside depending on activity. Anything >2 hours you can upgrade to business class (or first if no business class). Have not yet traveled post COVID
5) Number of portfolio companies covered. General responsibilities? - 2 currently, would pick up any news platforms that I was on the deal team for. Standard quarterly reporting / valuation work and also get looped in for most add-on M&A to varying degrees depending on size. Board observer for all board meetings (incl. audit or comp committee meetings)
6) Usual hours M-Th, Fr, and Sa/Sun - M-Th is 9 AM - 11 PM (longer if on a live deal); Friday 9 AM - 7:30 PM; Weekend varies but usually at least 5 hours spread across Sat / Sun
7) Vacations per year and length of vacations - Usually everyone takes a long vacation at end of August (1.5-2 weeks), otherwise just long weekends occasionally though they are high risk of getting blown up
What megafund is this, honestly the hours don’t seem that bad relative to the comp, city and fund size
One of BX / KKR / Carlyle
I wouldn’t really say it’s that great, the base case hours I outlined above are a good week and still cover essentially all waking hours. Substantially worse when on a live deal that is heating up
MF PE 80 hours are much more demanding than IB 80 hours.
1) Size of your shop and location - LMM in a large T2 city
2) Base + Target Bonus - $125K + $50K + exit bonuses
3) Do you get your own office or cubicle? - In an office
4) Travel schedule pre-pandemic (times travelled per month)? Travel schedule post-pandemic? Do you get to fly first class/business? Does your firm fly a private jet? - Pre-pandemic, maybe once or twice a month. Post-pandemic, significantly more than that, but it's mostly a function of me being ~15 months more senior. No jet. I've actually never asked if I could fly first class. I don't really care, as long as I have a window seat, I'm usually asleep.
5) Number of portfolio companies covered. General responsibilities? 2.5 where I would say I'm the primary junior resource (one is split). On those, I'm M&A, lender interactions, strategic planning and supporting initiatives, maybe some other ad-hoc stuff. We're a small team and generally everyone goes to every board meeting if they're available and stays up to speed at a high level.
6) Usual hours M-Th, Fr, and Sa/Sun - M-Th: Get in between 8 and 10 usually, leave around 7 or 8 to feed my pets and plug back in after if needed when things are active. F: Same, but out around 5-6 if things are slow. Sa/Sun: If needed when things are active. I have a pretty nice WFH set-up at this point, and they don't force me to be in the office which is nice.
7) Vacations per year and length of vacations: I think I technically have 15 days but again, we're pretty flexible on what constitutes a "vacation" given the industry.
Can you expand on what you mean regarding vacation flexibility etc?
1) Size of your shop (MF/UMM/MM/LMM) and location - UMM Tier 1 City (NY/SF/LA)
2) Base + Target Bonus - $125k + $140k
3) Do you get your own office or cubicle? - Cubicle (open floor)
4) Travel schedule pre-pandemic (times travelled per month)? Travel schedule post-pandemic? Do you get to fly first class/business? Does your firm fly a private jet? - N/A no travel as of yet
5) Number of portfolio companies covered. General responsibilities? - 2 Portcos only junior resource so typically doing all the high-level and detailed stuff as well
6) Usual hours M-Th, Fr, and Sa/Sun - M-Th: 9am - 9pm, Fri: 9am-6pm; 4-5 hours sat sunday
7) Vacations per year and length of vacations: TBD
1) Size: LMM / MM in large Tier 2 city (Chi, Bos, etc.)
2) 1st year comp: $100k + $75k + exit bonuses
3) Office: cubes
4) Travel: 5-10x per year, coach
5) Number of portfolio companies covered: 4 PortCos covered. Add-on sourcing and underwriting, board materials, budgeting / forecasting, and miscellaneous admin stuff (quarterly valuations, investor write-ups, etc.).
6) Usual hours: Really depends, probably average 55-60 hours a week when things are light, but can be 100 when you're working a platform on a tight timeline. Deal teams are thinly staffed
7) Vacations: Technically 2 weeks but pre-c19 I don't think any associates took more than a few days. Forced a week-long vacation during C19 for mental health. But people are pretty chill / respectable when you do take time off or have personal commitments.
Bump, interested to learn
1) MM (~$1Bn fund size, major metro outside NYC)
2) $110 base + 100% target bonus
3) Cube in a bullpen setup
4) Pre-pandemic: frequent travel (1-2x per week) for MPs, portco work, board meetings,etc. Post pandemic: travel for MPs still, most portco stuff has been virtual. First class travel unless with one of the founding partners (will take the private jet then)
5) 2-4 portcos per associate. Attend board meetings, valuations, lead add-ons, review reporting packages, manage lender relationships, help with budgeting and long-term planning, miscellaneous fire drills that pop up, etc.
6) M-Th: 9am-7pm in office, usually 1-3 hours at home. Out by 5-6 on Friday, and usually at least a few hours on weekends, more heavily concentrated on Sundays. Maybe 60-70 hours a week in normal times. Can approach 100+ during deals and frequent travel per COVID made things tough at times.
7) No vacation policy. Associates tend to take one real weeklong vacation in the summer, along with a fair number of weekend trips. The office is a ghost town around the holidays as well.
do you mind PMing me what firm? i'm at a similar fund
VP but most comparable to Senior Associate in some geographies. (Continental) EU.
1) Size of your shop (MF/UMM/MM/LMM) and location
LMM/MM - €500m-€750m funds, €1.5bn AUM
2) Base + Target Bonus
€100k + €30k; carry
3) Do you get your own office or cubicle?
Share my office with supporting junior
4) Travel schedule pre-pandemic (times travelled per month)? Travel schedule post-pandemic? Do you get to fly first class/business? Does your firm fly a private jet?
1-2 days per week, first class trains (Europe, regional)
5) Number of portfolio companies covered. General responsibilities?
1-2, quarterly reporting, add-ons, board meetings, weekly CEO/CFO calls, refi, exit, etc.
6) Usual hours M-Th, Fr, and Sa/Sun
9:30am-8:30pm M-Th, 9:30am-7:30pm Fr, and couple hours on weekends - can obviously significantly increase on intense deals.
7) Vacations per year and length of vacations
20 days excl. public holidays
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A lot of it can fall into the VP's lap but it is a huge time drag (~40% of my time on avg.). The level of sophistication of the finance function and overall performance pretty much dictates how much time I need to focus on it. I was monitoring four at one point, two of which were simultaneously going through sale processes and I pretty much spent 100% of my time on it for two months.
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