Thoughts on Mumble Rap?
What do you guys think of this generation's rap? Since its inception in 2011, mumble rap has taken off like crazy. Migos, Future, MGK, Lil Pump, Lil Xan, Lil "insert random name" and all these other "rappers" these days just don't give a damn about their songs' lyrics. Heck, most of the time you can't even understand what they're saying. Also, many of them just have no respect for any of the legendary lyrical geniuses which is just shameful honestly.
It used about standing out as a rapper, whereas now it is all about copying each other and repeating meaningless lyrics like "Gucci Gang" and "Stir-fry" or just straight out yelling as if you're having a seizure. Complete joke.
Worse than subprime MBS
Complete and utter garbage.
I'm more worried for the generation beyond this one...they're literally going to be listening to the splashing sound of shit hitting toilet water on loop
I love it.
I'm sure we all have some kind of spotify shit where you can listen to whatever you want whenever you want. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. If you want lyrics, there's plenty of music out there that's good for that. Kendrick just got a pulitzer and he's dumbed down enough to get into mainstream. Mumble rap isn't too far off from Summer House EDM kind of stuff, where all the words are just heavily chopped up and basic platitudes (Kygo, Avicii, Martin Garrix, Calvin Harris, etc).
Mumble rap filled a void in the musical world. There was a period of time there where nobody was putting out energetic music- Kendrick had only a couple bangers, Drake was off in some corner crying, Ye has been cutting the wilin out since YEEZUS, and I was stuck playing old Rick Ross and Ace Hood. When I'm at the gym, 99% of the time I don't give a fuck what they say, and when I do catch a lyric I just want some semi-motivational shit. Mumble rap gets thrown out in massive quantities so it's always fresh, the production is usually pretty good, the 1 phrase a song I catch is some form of motivating, and at the end of the day I find it entertaining.
Granted, I love the genre slightly known as ignant rap, and the number of gunshot onomatopoeias is a clear indication of how good the song will be, so mumble rap fits just right in.
Old people gonna hate and say "This generation is shit," but in the end you have to accept that there's a new value system in town and lyrics aren't a big factor anymore.
You do bring up fair points. I guess I'm just critical about the lack of substance in many of the songs out there. Sure, some of them out there produce good music but imo rap has always been about the lyrics. I'll admit that I am overgeneralizing here but to many of us lyrical rap music will always be more respected.
Solid points, +SB. I’m not a fan of the genre, but when I think about it through the lens of performance art with a goal of simply creating a mood, the lack of substance is more tolerable.
Re: gym music, do you really listen to mumble rap there? The vast majority of the music seems to be sparse and lugubrious…
Is Future considered mumble rap? I like a lot of future. Desiigner too.
Yup, Future and Desiigner are both notorious mumble rappers
follow up, is MGK a mumble rapper? I feel like he's the opposite of a mumble rapper.
He is not.
His EP that he dropped recently can definitely be considered mumble rap. It's like eminem could tell the future.
if you don't like this then that's on you
huge fan, and I am certainly not the only one (look at global billboard rankings)
The people who drive sales are the people looking to validate their stereotypes of how black people behave (and live vicariously with that image), thus the popularity of "mumble rap". Most of it is garbage but some of it can be good (Future and Young Thug have their moments). Overall, I'd rather it didn't exist. In real hip-hop news Young Sinatra 4 dropped today, so did Carter 5 (although I haven't listened to it).
Carter 5 is good. I'm 3 songs in right now. But bro wishing mumble rap didn't exist because it makes black people look bad is like me wishing vodka and money laundering didn't exist.
Also Logic is a fucking goodie goodie annoying fuckstick
Lmao +1
Not what I said. Reading is fundamental.
yeah the whole "validating stereotypes" point is unfortunately true
i don’t think it’s that bad. after a hard day of work, if i put on music, i’m not going to really be listening to the lyrics anyways. i’ll just want nice melodies, beats, etc.
definitely have more respect for lyrical rappers, and rappers who have more substance in their lyrics. the thing is, it’s really hard for intelligent rappers to blow up without appealing to the whole mumble rap, popping xans, soundcloud niche. so i’ve noticed a lot of rappers will have mumble rap songs as their popular songs meant to grab an audience, but then will have a lot of substance in their other work, especially once they’re able to find an initial large audience of people listening to them.
i think we should keep in mind that a lot of mumble rappers might be better businessmen than they let on. they’re marketing to what’s hot right now.
Pretty fucking awful, but then again, I'm not "the kids these days" anymore
Big hip hop fan here. Compared to what my generation grew up on, mumble rap has zero substance. No "worth" to any music Lil ____ puts out, but I'd argue it's not supposed to have any. They're just having fun and enjoying their time making songs that people like because of melodies and lyrics, no real substance. I don't care for it personally but I can definitely see the hype. Not my music of choice but it's easy listening.
Dude J.Cole is whiney ass R&B and Lil Wayne has been rapping longer than this fuck has been alive
Lol obviously I don't mean Lil Wayne and am talking about the typical mumble rappers of today like Lil Pump, Lil Uzi, etc. Song I linked just calls out the mumble rap genre, nothing else.
Weezy F Baby is classic. Carter V is a banger as expected.
See my comment above re: Logic. Same sentiment.
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dab on em
Don't associate the ATL boys (Future, Young Thug, Migos) with the mumble trash of today.
Migos -- YRN's, Culture
Young Thug -- Barter 6 + SS1, SS2, SS3 + Metro Thuggin + old tape singles are legendary
Future -- DS2 + old tape singles
New school guys are trash riding good production. ATL trap had some amazing music coming out of it for a while there.
Agree, we have to draw a clear line between ATL Trap acts like Migos, Young Thug and Future to separate them from these soundcloud rappers (all the Lils, rapper with weird as name)
Not a fan, but understand why it sells. The fact that Spotify and the like have made music disposable together with beats and catchy lyrics being what sell, mumble rap being popular makes perfect sense.
Whole lotta oldheads on this forum I'm schleep. Good mumble rap is incredible while bad mumble rap is sickening to hear. Go listen to lil baby and Young thug arguably the best mumble rappers alive.
Happy Wu Tang Wednesday everyone. Go listen to some real music and come back C.R.E.A.M.
See above
Mumble rap is hip hops response to the EDM mega-bubble post 2010. Kids were moving towards music with no lyrics that they could take drugs to, rappers found a way to appeal to that instinct within hip hop.
I do think there is a pretty continual evolution in popular music away from lyrics/meaning towards pure melody/musicality.
If Young Metro don’t trust you I’m gon shoot you
Every generation thinks that their music was "real music" and complains about the music of "kids these days." Rock n' roll fans complained about gangsta rap not being real music, and now gangsta rap fans are doing the same thing with mumble rap. I'm not too big into mumble rap, but I always try to look at new genres with an open mind and give them a chance.
Not true.....a lot of the time, you can see through the bullshit and bands that don't have longevity in your own generation.
Late 90s and early 2000s had some complete garbage music Limp Bizkit etc. I knew a lot of people my age who thought it was crap yet the records were flying off the shelves selling millions of copies. Turns out Limp Bizkit is not exactly on the same level as Led Zeppelin in stature 20 years later.
In my opinion, having good music taste means being able to tell the difference between Nirvana and Limp Bizkit in your own time. It is being able to see through all of the bullshit that is hot in the moment and recognizing something that will become timeless.
And if you look back in time, there are some eras with worse music than others. mid to late 70s....late 90s...early 2000s were all pretty bad. It's not just about your generation versus the new. There are actually droughts of quality material out there. Right now, I think there is a lot of decent music out there now but very little stuff that I find compelling as timeless music that people will be celebrating in 20 years.
I would like to add that MGK was not a mumble rapper. It appears that he has switched over to mumble rap to appeal to the new generation of kids. You can blame what sells nowadays for the pivot. It's like all of us who really want to do something else in life, but end up becoming bankers and consultants because that's what pays the bills.
Yeah....I always wanted to be a mumble rapper and sell crack rock....too bad I had to settle for this bullshit.
Keep your head up, don't give up on your dreams
God damn finance people can’t enjoy anything without intellectualizing and rationalizing. Mumble rap is fun and it sells. You can listen to other music if it appeals to you.
Adam Sandler movies sell, they're still garbage. Stop using this argument.
Different genres for different situations. Sometimes I just want to shut my mind off and watch shitty movies or listen to mumble rap. Less about sales more about serving a consumer need.
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Lil Toe and Young ISIS = better than Tupac. Change my mind.
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