Udel vs Umass-A vs Baruch. An obvious choice?

Hi can someone please help me choose which undergrad business school is the best option for me?

I live in Long Island, NY. I plan to major in finance and pursue investment banking.
(I'm considering majoring in engineering since undergrad business is supposedly useless)

Im considering the following schools:
University of Delaware
UMass - Amherst
CUNY Baruch College
Yeshiva University

UMass and Udel are roughly the same price after scholarships.
While Baruch and Yeshiva are dirt cheap (I tend to look down at Baruch&YU because they lack a college lifestyle).

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Comments (28)

 
May 28, 2012 - 8:28pm

Baruch

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.
 
May 28, 2012 - 8:54pm

Does it have to be one of these schools? The reason I ask is that if you are certain you want to do IBD, maybe you should try your luck at some better schools. I think almost all of these schools are ranked fairly low. I never heard of their finance programs. You mentioned tuition is an issue so I am sure you have to stay within your limits.

 
May 28, 2012 - 9:05pm

As you said, tuition is an issue so I am limited to my choices.
I have an sat score of 1920 and a GPA about 3.5

I almost want to get peoples opinions if Baruch wasnt an option.
College seams like a once in a lifetime experience I don't want to miss out on; However, I still want to be academically challenged at the school I go to.

 
May 28, 2012 - 9:19pm

I know a guy who went to UM-A for a year prior to switching to Brown. Consider something similar.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 
May 28, 2012 - 9:25pm

seabird:
I know a guy who went to UM-A for a year prior to switching to Brown. Consider something similar.

This. Baruch is a target... in NYC. It's business school is huge and well respected here. But it has no campus, no dorms, nothing. Go there for a year, kick ass, have a school-year internship like everyone else, and then apply to transfer. You will be able to write a legitimate application explaining how to initially chose Baruch as a bargain but soon realized that you did not want to miss out on the true college experience.
 
May 28, 2012 - 9:26pm

I went to U of Delaware, so if you have any questions let me know. I was a chemical engineering major so I don't really have first hand exp with the business school, but I will say that OCR for business is pretty weak. Also, I've been networking for some time now and I haven't come across many alumni in front office roles. With that said, UD was a great time socially and I definitely recommend the school for engineering, but if working on the street is your end goal, I would consider other options or transfer after frosh yr.

 
May 28, 2012 - 9:56pm

Although transferring has crossed my mind, I've been told that I will not get the same experience and I'd be risking credits. Also transfers tend to get smaller financial aid packages.

I have nearly enough credits to skip a year of college currently, So transferring after a year will leave me with little time at another college.

There is no doubt that Baruch will open many doors in business, but I will seriously be lacking a social life as a commuter.

 
May 29, 2012 - 9:59am

yairnazz:
Thanks Ragnar, I just hope its even possible to balance social life with a college that will open doors for me in the future with the options I have available.

Why wouldn't it be possible? It's a simple choice really... just make a commitment to yourself that you're going to get everything that you need to done and then party when all responsibilities are complete. That's what the most successful people do, and you'll find the way you work best. Just maximize your time.

 
May 29, 2012 - 2:07am

As a current student and as others have said, Baruch definitely has great OCR. Quite a few BBs were hiring for FO positions for this summer, including JPM who have been coming on campus for a while now, and GS, who just started coming to our school. Also to reiterate that if you value a "true" college experience (dorming, etc), Baruch may not be for you since it is a commuter school and most of the students I've seen tend to stick with their cliques(spelling?) Pretty much the only way to socialize is to join clubs or frats. That being said, we do have two finance based clubs that have had previous members/leaders go work for BBs, the Wall Street Club and Finance and Economics Society (FES).

 
May 29, 2012 - 9:27am

Get real dude. You will have a much better social life in New York City as a commuter student than at one of these small-town college campuses. You can never get bored in New York City. At many of these small-town college campuses, the students are bored to death and all there is to do is to get drunk and f**k.

 
May 29, 2012 - 9:39am

TraderJoe1976:
At many of these small-town college campuses, the students are bored to death and all there is to do is to get drunk and f**k.

first-hand experience, going to a city school is no where near as fun as going to a small-town college. I have done both, and traderjoe says all thats done is getting fked up and fking like its a bad thing... lol. If you want to meet lots of hot chics don't go to a commuter school bro. Most of NY/ most cities are only fun when you have a solid amount of money in the bank (ie. after college) not while you're in school and broke. Plus, you will have plenty of time to enjoy NYC after graduating.

 
May 29, 2012 - 1:37pm

Baruch has an engineering major?

Also, you can do like most Baruch students: Go to a party school, fail out, then attend Baruch. Best of both worlds...

Edit:

Go to Nassau, do well, transfer to NYU. Doesn't make sense to pay twice Nassau at Baruch for liberal arts classes, considering there is practically no OCR unless you're in Zicklin (two years in.)

 
May 29, 2012 - 1:50pm

@Rufio, what i meant be that was if I go to Baruch itll be hard to enjoy the college experience, if i go to Udel, I will enjoy college but will i get a good business education? will it open doors for me (OCR)?

Is it possible to get the best of both worlds?

 
May 29, 2012 - 3:11pm

[quote=yairnazz]@Rufio, what i meant be that was if I go to Baruch itll be hard to enjoy the college experience, if i go to Udel, I will enjoy college but will i get a good business education? will it open doors for me (OCR)?

Is it possible to get the best of both worlds?

 
May 29, 2012 - 4:04pm

rufiolove:

Sure it's possible. Go to a big state school that has a solid business school. I wouldn't get a 4 year degree from Baruch unless there are pressing financial concerns. Maybe do a year there because the cost of tuition is so low. Delaware would be fun but it isn't at all worth the cost of attendance for you out of state. If I were you I would take transferable courses for a year at Baruch and then see about transferring elsewhere. I just feel like college is too awesome of a time to waste going somewhere that doesn't have a strong social component. I think the social learning and development that goes on at college is vastly more important than the academic. You'll have your entire working career to learn on the job and determine where you want to go and what you want to do, but you learn who you are as a person through lower education, not higher. This is something that is never fully recognized by the academically focused. In all actuality, the people who are relatively smart but party go way further than those who are just intelligent but never develop their social acumen.

Do you think it's a good idea to transfer after a year?
Tuition is an issue and transfers usually receive less tuition.
I also practically have enough credits to skip a year of college, so I'd only spend about2 yrs at another school?
Some of my transfers may not transfer from Baruch as well.

Udel is 30k a year with R+B and a Meal Plan after scholarships

 
May 29, 2012 - 5:27pm

What type of engineering are you thinking of doing? If it's chemE/mechE/EE and you can make it through the major then I would say delaware is worth it. UD is top ten in chemE and I believe top 50 for EE/ME, so a lot of companies that recruit for chemE also hold interviews for EE and ME positions out of convenience. Some of the companies that hold OCR for engineers are exxon, dupont, hess, bristol-myers squibb, merck, gore, dow, sunoco, exelon and a bunch of smaller engineering firms. For business the best jobs on OCR are deloitte federal technology consulting, J&J FLDP (internship only), and a bunch of the typical accounting jobs at the big four. The rest is pretty much all BO stuff and sales so business won't give you the same ROI as engineering will imho.

 
May 30, 2012 - 3:57pm

BicepBrah:
What type of engineering are you thinking of doing? If it's chemE/mechE/EE and you can make it through the major then I would say delaware is worth it. UD is top ten in chemE and I believe top 50 for EE/ME, so a lot of companies that recruit for chemE also hold interviews for EE and ME positions out of convenience. Some of the companies that hold OCR for engineers are exxon, dupont, hess, bristol-myers squibb, merck, gore, dow, sunoco, exelon and a bunch of smaller engineering firms. For business the best jobs on OCR are deloitte federal technology consulting, J&J FLDP (internship only), and a bunch of the typical accounting jobs at the big four. The rest is pretty much all BO stuff and sales so business won't give you the same ROI as engineering will imho.

U aware?

 
May 30, 2012 - 7:33pm

RagnarDanneskjold:
BicepBrah:
What type of engineering are you thinking of doing? If it's chemE/mechE/EE and you can make it through the major then I would say delaware is worth it. UD is top ten in chemE and I believe top 50 for EE/ME, so a lot of companies that recruit for chemE also hold interviews for EE and ME positions out of convenience. Some of the companies that hold OCR for engineers are exxon, dupont, hess, bristol-myers squibb, merck, gore, dow, sunoco, exelon and a bunch of smaller engineering firms. For business the best jobs on OCR are deloitte federal technology consulting, J&J FLDP (internship only), and a bunch of the typical accounting jobs at the big four. The rest is pretty much all BO stuff and sales so business won't give you the same ROI as engineering will imho.

U aware?


Aware lol, u must have been mirin' the username
 
May 30, 2012 - 5:39pm

Yes. However, ill most likely be majoring in business.

I was also accepted to Rutgers New Brunswick with an ~8k scholarship.
How Does Rutgers compare to Udel and Umass? Does it have better OCR/academics?

From what I've seen, Rutgers Business rankings have been decreasing.

 
May 30, 2012 - 8:07pm

yairnazz:
Yes. However, ill most likely be majoring in business.

I was also accepted to Rutgers New Brunswick with an ~8k scholarship.
How Does Rutgers compare to Udel and Umass? Does it have better OCR/academics?

From what I've seen, Rutgers Business rankings have been decreasing.


Honestly, Rutgers might be a little better than delaware for finance OCR, but there's prob not a significant difference between the two schools. I'm not too familiar with umass, but I feel it's not any better than udel or ru. As far as transferring goes, you can definitely get into some target schools if you get a 3.7+ at delaware or rutgers. Keep in mind that both schools are really fun, so it may be hard to stay focused and keep a high gpa, especially when you turn 21.
 
May 30, 2012 - 7:46pm

Lol. Baruch is what you make of it. Some parts of it may suck (especially admin-wise) but the bottom line is you get a shit ton of potential opportunity for an awesome value. For those of you complaining about the social life, your campus is NYfuckingC. I've had WAY more "development" and social life living in an apartment and enjoying what New York has to offer than I think I'd ever get somewhere else. Real life development socially and career-wise as opposed to being lost in some college town. I wouldn't be able to network or meet up with some guy from GS if I was in any random city. But yeah, if you decide to live with your parents your college life is fucked. Your choice, OP.

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