UVA or Cornell?

So I am at city college right now and killed it there with a 4.0 and am fortunate enough to receive offers of admission as a transfer student for next Spring to both UVA & Cornell. I got in Pre-comm for UVA (opportunity to apply to Mcintire) and Hotel for Cornell. I am completely unsure on which to choose as I don't have any insight on the comparability of the two colleges and their designated fields of study and exactly how well they can generate internships with a 3.5+ GPA. Will I have an easier time getting SA IB internships at Cornell simply because it's an ivy, or is Mcintire at UVA far more impressive than a hospitality driven education with a fancy college name?

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Dec 5, 2018

I'd do UVA

Dec 6, 2018

Reason?

Dec 6, 2018

Honestly? Not a whole lot going into my preference.

It's a strong brand and it looks like a fun place to go to school. I'd much prefer Charlottesville to Ithaca.

Dec 5, 2018

Cornell for sure

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Dec 6, 2018

Any reason?

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Dec 5, 2018

PM me

Dec 5, 2018

cant comment on uva. But cornell hotel has great acceptance into bb, repe, etc

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Dec 6, 2018

Is that true? The hotel school has high placement in IB? I don't understand what would make that program a target

Dec 6, 2018

Because banks don't give a shit about what your major is. If you demonstrate interest through clubs, and take relevant classes, you'll be fine. Hotel school places really well into real estate, and it's decent with IB. However, you also need to take into account that not a lot of hotel kids actually want to go into IB. A lot of them want to do real estate, or do something related to hospitality.

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Dec 6, 2018

So by that logic, wouldn't UVA Mcintire be a better choice as almost 40% of their class of 200-250 place in IB and many in BB/EB every year?

Dec 6, 2018

I'm not saying he should choose one or the either, I am just explaining the hotel school to him

Dec 6, 2018

Thank you for answering. The reason why I asked is because UNLV consistently battles Cornell for #1 hotel school, and from my understanding no banks recruit from there.

Dec 7, 2018

Fair question, but UNLV is not comparable to Cornell Hotel. No one in their right mind would pick UNLV over Cornell unless for financial reasons.

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Dec 8, 2018

...unless they wanted to work in the casino/upscale resort hospitality business.

Dec 8, 2018

yeah, then you would still go to cornell hotel lol what

Dec 8, 2018

If your endgame was to work in management at one of the largest casinos in the world in Las Vegas, do you seriously not see some advantages UNLV could afford in that respect?

Dec 8, 2018

I do, but Cornell Hotel places kids into Las Vegas as well, I don't really see your point.

I would say one advantage UNLV has is its proximity.

Dec 8, 2018

Same advantage as NYU Stern for BB IB. I wouldn't minimize that.

Dec 8, 2018

Don't think that's comparable, UNLV has an acceptance rate of 88% while NYU Stern is under 15%. I still think you would be insane to choose UNLV over Cornell Hotel if the price tag was the same, but whatever, there's really no point in discussing this.

Dec 8, 2018

Cornell Ag school has a much higher acceptance rate than Dyson. UNLV's hotel school's acceptance rate is not comparable to that of the rest of the school.

Dec 8, 2018

ok my bad

Dec 6, 2018

I think I'd go with Cornell - it's the Ivy League.

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Dec 6, 2018

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Dec 6, 2018

Neither of these are target programs, so there's probably no major advantage to either. They're both great schools. I was in a similar position. I was in a target-ish school. Most banks recruited there, but not like Wharton or CBS.

If it were me, knowing what I know now, just pick the one where you'll learn the most, enjoy the campus, have the highest GPA, extra curriculars, etc. I think of this like NCAA to NFL transition. Sure, 'Bama, LSU, Notre Dame, FL, OSU, USC, etc. will have high representation in the NFL, but Utah, Cincinnati, Boston College, Purdue, Fresno State, Northern Illinois, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Eastern Michigan (so much Michigan), etc. have representation in the NFL. Those guys just had to work harder to get noticed. So you just know that going in. You're going to have to work harder to get recruited.

Also, maybe spend some time at the education school of your chosen university and find a potential wife because you won't have much time when you start in IB.

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Dec 6, 2018

I agree that you should choose the school which you think you will enjoy the best. I think both are fine in terms of IB placement, so you should see where you think you will fit in the best.

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Dec 6, 2018

My friend, all BB/EB recruit for Mcintire. That is definitely a target. Not a super target like HYPSW, but definitely a target. 40% of Mcintire alumni reported to be in IB, PE. HF.

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Dec 6, 2018

You need to also consider that you might not want to do IB. What if you decide you like consulting more? That's why I think it's important to choose a school you think you would enjoy the best.

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Dec 6, 2018

Yea i like the culture of UVA a lot and Im pretty dead set on IB. Id rather take relevant course work and enjoy my time, rather than take hospitality courses at Cornell. I wish I could get the advice of a Hotelie so I could truly know how good or bad recruiting for IB is at Hotel.

Dec 6, 2018

This is a good idea. I'd scour linkedin for some cornell hotel grads in IB and get their view. That said, I'd go to UVA. Life's too short to study hotel management and risk needing to take a job in hotel management if you're not at all interested in hotel management. A lot you can do with a UVA comm degree, including IB, as others have pointed out.

Dec 6, 2018

PM me to learn more about hotel

I was also dead set on IB, and here I am, not doing IB lol. Life is unpredictable.

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Dec 6, 2018

I only think of HYPSW as "target" schools. Apparently WSO says different. https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/comprehensi...

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Dec 8, 2018

Yeah, that list has UT-Austin and UMich as "targets." It seems from the wording, however, that it could be just be pure amount of graduates going into IB, not on a per capita basis, giving additional weight to huge state schools like Texas and Michigan. Personally, I would add NYU Stern to the list of targets for IB, but beyond that the lines get a little blurry. In my opinion, there should be a category between semi-target and target for schools like Duke, Cornell, Virginia, etc.

Dec 6, 2018

Wow, excellent post!

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Dec 6, 2018

Both schools are great. They place well and have strong alumni. No matter where you end up, you'll have to work hard to stand out from your peers and the crowd.

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Dec 6, 2018

If you had to choose, which one would you choose and what made you give that particular school the edge?

Dec 7, 2018

Honestly, both are excellent. I think Cornell places slightly better. UVA might offer a better undergrad experience (better weather for sure) but Cornell is an Ivy and it offers a rich alumni network to both itself and other Ivies through Ivy exclusive clubs and events. If neither offers you a scholarship, I'd choose Cornell in a heartbeat. But if Virginia offers you money, go there.

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Dec 7, 2018

The problem is, I really do not want to put with the hospitality courses and retarded culinary classes. Cornell's got a sexy reputation as an Ivy, but at least Mcintire will offer course work that's relevant to my interests.

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Dec 7, 2018

Did you even get into either schools? I am confused.

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Dec 7, 2018

I got into both. What type of question is this?

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Dec 7, 2018

oh, didn't read ur original post

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Dec 7, 2018

This is the crux of it. I don't think you or a lot of the other commentators are accurately pricing the risk of your going to Cornell, studying hotel management, then not getting an IB job. Lots of capable people at schools as good or better than Cornell can't get IB jobs.
So there you potentially are, with a degree in a field you have no interest in, and which you can't parlay into commercial banking, back office, consulting, buyside, tech or lots of other interesting career paths, any/all of which you'd have at least a decent shot at with the UVA degree.

Dec 7, 2018

"So there you potentially are, with a degree in a field you have no interest in, and which you can't parlay into commercial banking, back office, consulting, buyside, tech or lots of other interesting career paths, "

This is 100% wrong.

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Dec 7, 2018

"100%"? The OP stated that he has no interest in hospitality. I didn't say that there's nothing outside hospitality/RE you can do with a Cornell Hotel degree. I said it has far less applicability to other fields than does a comm degree from UVA. But never mind that: All other things being equal why on earth would someone spend the rest of his undergrad years studying something he has no interest in??

Dec 7, 2018

Yes, 100% wrong. You literally said you can't go from the hotel school to "commercial banking, back office, consulting". This is 100% wrong. Your words not mine. You can just as easily get a any of these jobs from hotel school as you can from UVA.

But I do agree that he should study something that he enjoys.

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Dec 7, 2018

I know white male sophomores at state schools who have BB investment banking internships. I know guys with 4.0 GPAs in economics from H and got rejected by MBB.

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Dec 7, 2018

How is that even comparable? MBB is harder than BB.

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Dec 7, 2018

Ok, I know guys with 4.0 GPAs in economics from H and got rejected by BB. The moral of the story is that you're a moron, and that holds true in either scenario.

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Dec 7, 2018

The moral of the story is that you stated something incredibly obvious and contributed nothing to this thread.

Dec 7, 2018

What else is new, buckaroo?

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Dec 7, 2018

One of my roommates at UVA was a junior year transfer to McIntire. He seemed to have no problems getting interviews for SA positions in IB, although I think he ended up going into consulting. Just one data point to consider. My personal experience is that UVA alumni are great and pretty passionate about the school. It's always interesting seeing all the places UVA alumns turn up.

I can't say anything about Cornell other than it has a great reputation in the working world as well. I don't know anything about the hotel school in particular.

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Well of course. Expecting a guaranteed BB IB offer is not an expectation for anyone. I don't quite agree with UVA recruiting being decent to mixed. My best friend had a 3.8 from Mcintire and got multiple EB and 1 BB offer. He mentioned most who had that type of GPA ended up very well. 40% of Mcintire alumni end up in IB, HF, PE, as per the destination reports. I just wanted to know if Cornell would be even better since it's an Ivy

Dec 7, 2018

From what I've heard from my close friend who goes to McIntire, CS recruits heavily from UVA but most kids are in greek life.

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Dec 7, 2018

"The UVA circlejerk on this website is strong."

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Dec 7, 2018

Truthfully, you can't go wrong with either decision. Both are very reputable schools that have tons of alumni in the field. I'd say it comes down to preference and where you want to be

Dec 7, 2018

If you were in my shoes, what would you do?

Dec 7, 2018

I would go to Cornell, I feel that the Ivy League branding will pay dividends later on in your career. But again, both are great options

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Dec 7, 2018

Agree with this.

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Dec 7, 2018

Does ivy branding mean anything anymore? Or do schools stand on there own brand? Plus Cornell is a state school and has always been considered the lowest of the Ivy's. It's as much a less fun version of penn state as it is an Ivy.

I'd consider any of the second tier private schools as preferable to Cornell and having better experiences. Duke Notre Dame Georgetown MIT (obviously more prestigious) USC etc as having at a minimum similar prestige ranking but much more unique cultures.

In terms of prestige I'd rank UVA as the equal of Cornell. Better culture if you like the southern frat boy thing and definitely hotter girls. Cornell and UVA are both basically tier 1 state schools.... a little above cal and Michigan because they are huge and a full tier above psu Indiana and UCLA.

UVA night actually be the best at what they do a culturally southern school. While Cornell doesn't have one person on campus who wouldn't go to any other ivy if they had the choice.

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Dec 7, 2018

Lmao ND > Cornell?? wtf there's so much inaccuracy I don't know where to start. Cornell is actually partly state, partly private (varies by school; hotel is private fwiw) and is one of three land grant universities in the U.S. along with MIT.

I'm a current undergrad (not hotel, A&S so full disclosure I am biased) w eb summer lined up. What I can say is that all of the prestigious banks recruit here -- for top groups -- (and not just OCR; dinners, networking events, company visit days, etc). Dozens of kids go to every single BB and EB (can think of people I've personally met in the past class or two at GS TMT, JPM HC, MS M&A, Laz, Evr, PJT), you should see the CVs of DSP alums just from the past two years who came back this fall. Suffice to say, if you're a good candidate you'll get interviews.

The hotel pigeonhole is less of a detriment than you may be lead to believe; hotelie's tend to have a very strong alumni network, arguably strongest of any undergrad school and plenty go to IB every year. Furthermore, after your first year have a lot of flexibility to take more electives (probably even broader for transfers). Also, one hidden perk which I've learned about recently is it can be advantageous having alums running some of the sweetest hotels around the world. Don't choose Hotel for that reason but friends have some pretty unbelievable stories.

Generally speaking I have had nothing but positive experiences with Cornell alumni. Whether or not the "ivy brand" means anything, thanks of its distinctive natural beauty and strong camaraderie one's years at Cornell evidently instill a special bond that stays long after graduation. Look no further than the WSO industry reports which demonstrate Cornell's massive footprint in on the NYC (and global) finance scene.

Here's the full-disclosure, honest-to-God downsides:

  • It gets pretty cold. Not like minnesota cold, but when a blizzard blows up Cayuga lake you feel it. Also can be quite grey.
  • It's isolated; I am constantly surprised at how challenging it can be to get into or out of Ithaca. Most reliable is the university's bus which runs several times/day to NYC. Nice service but pricey and takes 4.5 hours.
  • UVA girls probly win. Not gonna go into that.
  • Frat scene is what you make it (pro or con); I think ?35% of campus is involved in greek life so it's definitely there if you want it but it you also won't feel like a pariah if you choose not to dive in 100% which can be harder/more socially isolating in big southern schools. But it also can't rival big southern state schools for overall hardcore frat scene.
  • You dramatically increase your odds of getting a good ib gig by getting into (extremely) competitive clubs w strong alumni networks, e.g. DSP, AKPsi, MICC, CFC, CIBC, etc. I made it without these but they make it easier so that can be a pro or a con.

Hopefully that gives you a somewhat more personalized overview. Happy to discuss further here or offline.

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Dec 7, 2018

I don't know why so much debate. Both of them will get you IBD interviews. I will focus working on your interviews.

Dec 7, 2018

do you think Cornell on my app would get me more attention though? Its an Ivy after all

Dec 7, 2018

I will personally go to UVA. You will definitely not have problem for your recruiting. I don't know if people will hire someone who goes to Cornell for hotel. I will personally go to UVA because, it's a safer bet. UVA is ranked pretty high, their business school Darden is ranked a lot higher than Cornell Johnson. Lastly, I believe UVA offers better financial aid package.

Dec 7, 2018

"I don't know if people will hire someone who goes to Cornell for hotel"

Yes they will.

"UVA is ranked pretty high, their business school Darden is ranked a lot higher than Cornell Johnson"

No one cares about rankings. Also, you are comparing graduate schools to undergraduate schools. Makes no sense.

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Dec 7, 2018

If you go Penn or Harvard is a different ballgame for recruiting. However, I will assume Cornell and UVA will get the same amount of on campus recruiting.

Dec 7, 2018

An important thing to consider is transferring between schools at Cornell is quite easy, not sure how exactly that works for transfer students. Worth looking into, because many other programs at Cornell (econ, AEM) place very well into IB.

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Dec 7, 2018

There is some truth to @AtticuSFincg comment, but it is also underplaying the strength of McIntire recruiting. Yes, top banks are poaching only a few students, but that is true at any school. You wont have an analyst class at any bank where its 50% Wharton and then evenly distributed between other target schools. Top banks are also taking only a few students from Wharton (and the competition is more fierce there).

The comment also underplayed middle-market banks, particularly the strongest groups at those banks (Houlihan's RX group hires more McIntire than any other target, Raymond James' Tech & Services group takes a lot of McIntire kids too).

Where the comment has validity is that these banks are hiring the best of McIntire. These kids are usually very involved in the top 3 investment clubs (MII, VVF, AIF), networked heavily, and have high GPAs. McIntire places better and is regarded as a stronger target than Cornell but with that being said, you're still at risk transferring to UVA pre-comm. Remember that it is still very competitive for UVA students getting into McIntire. If you're already admitted into the Hotel school at Cornell, it may be a smarter move to go there. Because outside of McIntire, UVA is not really a target.

Hope this helps.

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Dec 7, 2018

I think the conclusion is that if you are good enough to get IB at UVA, you will be good enough to get IB at Cornell. One school may have a slight advantage, but that advantage is not going to be material enough to base your decision on.

It's like choosing between Car A and Car B. You know that historically, Car A has a 10% chance of failing in a year while Car B has a 9.5% chance of failing in 10 years. Are you going to choose Car B even though you enjoy driving Car A significantly more?

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Dec 7, 2018

People telling you to study fucking hotel management at Cornell because "it's an ivy" are fucking retarded. UVA business school is obviously the way to go. It's like choosing back office at GS over FO at BMO because of the "prestige factor" of the name brand.

Go to UVA, learn finance, economics and accounting and break into IB. It's not hard and you'll have fun.

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Dec 7, 2018

Im hesitant because I hear Mcintire is hard to get into internally as well.

Dec 7, 2018

Look buddy, I personally know hotel students who have either interviewed or work at the following firms doing FO roles:

Moelis
Evercore
JPM
GS
Blackstone
SIG
DE Shaw
PJT
McKinsey
Bain
BCG
BAML
Deloitte S&O
EY
WF
Citi

This isn't even close to the entire list, but just some companies off the top of my head. You aren't going to be limited by being a hotel student. Not telling you to choose Cornell, but I am telling you to ignore the retards that don't know anything about the hotel school.

Also, Cornell OCR is not school specific. You can be in the hotel school, a history major, or an econ major, doesn't matter...if you have a high gpa, relevant work experience, and you seem smart, you will get the interview.

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Dec 7, 2018

Don't talk about things you don't understand.

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Dec 7, 2018

Im guessing you're a Hotelie

Dec 7, 2018

I am.

Dec 8, 2018

Look, the biggest advocate for the hotel school on this thread is, not surprisingly, a hotel school student. Wang has 17 posts alone urging you to go to his school. Clearly, hes biased to be that emotionally invested in it. Also, he himself said that he wanted IB but didnt get it.

That said, those who tell you that knowledge/majors aren't important are thinking very short term. They're likely very junior in their careers or still in school. Theres more to your career than just your first job.

Having a solid, conceptual understanding of fundamentals will help you throughout your entire career. And it will help you get your first job too.

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Dec 8, 2018

No, I never told him to go to Cornell. I was just defending my school against idiots who think they are know what they are talking. I already told him both choices are solid, and to choose whichever school he thinks he would enjoy.

Also, I never said I didn't get IB. I said I stopped pursuing IB and will be doing something else.

Dec 8, 2018

"Cornell is far more represented than [UVA]. That is a fact that can't be disputed."

What statistics back this up? Not doubting you, but there are a ton of UVA people in finance so it'd be helpful if you had a source.

Dec 8, 2018

If you go on linkedin, all the people in BB/EB IB positions are all engineering, comp sci, AEM, econ majors. I've seen some Hotelies, but they're all in real estate. I think I'm going to go with UVA

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Dec 7, 2018

The reason most are against this is because of the type of course work I believe. I was on the Cornell reddit and apparently hotel is full of culinary classes and random BS that isn't at all applicable outside of the classroom unless you're for sure going into hotel management. Id rather take relevant course work honestly and I hear UVA isn't too hard to get high GPAs in.

Dec 7, 2018

OP said he doesn't like Hotel Management. How in sam's hell do you want him to make it a "Cornell vs UVA" decision? That's 3 years of bullshit culinary classes and hotel management retardation. Granted OP buckled down and studies and gets a 3.7+ to get into Mcintire, he'll have far better chances of landing a BB/Eb or MM IB offer

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Dec 8, 2018

I don't get it. Are you claiming Hotel has superior placement to Mcintire?

Dec 8, 2018

You're a kid that doesn't know anything. Finish school buddy. Get past your first job. The come back and give advice.

Dec 8, 2018

Lol you didn't have to roast him this bad. I don't understand why you're getting so defensive. Hotel and Mcintire are both great programs and at this point I'm just deciding where I should go based on fit and if proximity to campus matters. Some kid claimed I'm apparently autistic in here and won't get IB ever. Don't take things personally.

Dec 8, 2018

You don't know what my credentials are kid, and I don't feel the need to share them with a know-it all, snot nose college student. Good luck on your finals.

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Dec 8, 2018

So the kid was asking about IB recruiting at Cornell. I don't care how old or experienced you think you are, your advice is completely irrelevant when compared to the advice of actual Cornell students who have gone through the recruiting process.

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Dec 8, 2018

The unbiased advice of someone who's experienced in the industry certainly has relevance.

The biased, anectdotal and myopic views of an undergrad who 8 months ago didn't even know what WACC was, and was asking for "GPA requirements of each bank" seems relatively less insightful.

Dec 8, 2018

Was he asking about how to calculate WACC or was he asking about the recruiting process at Cornell? That's right buddy, shut your mouth.

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Dec 8, 2018

There's clearly not any relation between someone who knows what WACC is and someone who is qualified to give advice about finance. My apologies.

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Dec 8, 2018

This isn't rocket science buddy. He's not asking for advice regarding finance, he's for advice regarding recruiting from Cornell. If my Toyota breaks down, I am going to take it to a mechanic, not ask a random engineer at Toyota. If I want to know how Stanford does in IB recruiting, I am going to ask Stanford alumni, not some random 50 year old MD who attended bumfuck university.

Dec 8, 2018

Your analogy is off. If I'm wondering where to get my car fixed do I want to ask the newly hired janitor at a local dealership that didn't even know what an engine was a week ago, or do I want the ask the Toyota engineer that actually has an idea about the relevant factors to consider. This isn't to say the janitor can't provide a bit of value, but it comes from an incredibly limited frame of reference.

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Dec 8, 2018

I seriously question your intelligence with an analogy like this. So many flaws, and you have the audacity to say my analogy is off lol...let me break it down for you since you're a bit slow in the head.

In my analogy, both people in question have knowledge in the subject. The mechanic knows how to fix cars, the engineer knows how cars run and probably has some knowledge with regards to how to fix cars, but not nearly to the same extent as the mechanic. Therefore, when you are having car trouble, you are most likely going to to go the person with the most RELEVANT knowledge, which is the mechanic. The engineer might know more about cars in general, but doesn't know more than the mechanic when it comes to fixing cars.

Alright, following? I hope so. Now back to our current situation. Fixing cars = knowledge in financing recruiting at Cornell. I have a RELEVANT knowledge when it comes to IB recruiting from Cornell. Someone who has worked in IB for 10 years, who has not graduated from Cornell, might know a lot more about finance than me, but his knowledge is not relevant in this situation. Therefore, I have more relevant knowledge. So as you can see, I am the mechanic and more experienced posters are the engineers. You see how that works? I know analogies can be a bit hard to understand, but I trust this explanation will clear things up for you!

In your analogy, you demonstrate what little grasp you have on how analogies work. The janitor likely has no knowledge on how to fix cars. As stated before, fixing cars = knowledge in finance recruiting at Cornell. To say that a Cornell student has 0 knowledge in how finance recruiting works at his own school is borderline retarded when said Cornell student has participated in recruiting and also has friends / alumni who understand how the process works.

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Dec 8, 2018

Another thing that drives me away from Cornell is my parents. They weren't too happy with my acceptance to the Hotel school. I guess they're a bit snobby and it sounds too vocational and for bumbs. Any idea how to persuade them?

Dec 8, 2018

I pity you w parents like that. The hotel school is elite. Seriously, it has a global reputation in many corners of business. This is coming from an A&S kid who finds it tempting to rib hotelies until everybody graduates and sees the hotelies making bank in the business world. Honestly I thought the hotel program was a bit random too before getting here (like your parents) but it's well known enough that no bank is gonna say "wtf is the hotel school??" there are enough successful alums out there that it's just recognized as a very specialized business school.

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Dec 8, 2018

So if you had to choose... Mcintire or Hotel?

Dec 8, 2018

Haha fair question. To be honest, I haven't met more than a handful of Mcintire kids. By the way I am not some "cornell all the way" person - as a current student I see the pros and cons very clearly (I slipped in a giant pool of grey ice water on my walk home from the library tonight, for example). I love this school but there are certainly reasons to choose others - see my long post above.

I will say that there is something to the ivy brand. Not to knock state school kids, but seriously I was at a major performing arts gala in the city recently and the ivy alma mater established an instant connection with other ivy alums, even ones further up the totem pole.

Personally I guess I would lean hotel just because I think it's a unique specialized business school with unbelievable alum network (I actually might pick hotel over AEM just because I like the different flavor from your standard ugrad bus program, I think it's interesting, hot take) and I don't think you're really sacrificing much with that specialization. The pigeonholing as a hospitality guy is less of an issue than your parents think.

Mcintire has loads going for it too, these are just some of my musings as an A&S econ guy lol

Dec 8, 2018

Yeah I actually liked your posts a lot. Probably the most relatable and brutally honest. It'll be tough to convince my dad, but what can you do.

Dec 8, 2018

Best of luck with that, but also remember that your parents will probably come around to it. I actually was sorta in the opposite boat, my dad went to a very competitive state school and sort of associated "private ivy" with hand-holding and elitism but he's warmed up to Cornell a lot since then and appreciates the very driven culture, natural beauty, academics, connection to new york, etc..

Dec 8, 2018

LOL. I won't lie your post had me dead. Good looks my dude I see where you're trying to get to.

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