Comp is lower than peers. Hours are average, nothing like Apollo hours. Culture obviously group dependent... but generally will work you hard as a first year associate (to be expected)
From chats with other people from my banking class, have heard hours are bad, but not Apollo / H&F level. General consensus among my friend group - from worst to best hours (each line is a general bucket)
Would say this was true pre-COVID - from friends from my banking class, would say it's changed slightly (only including those where I have high confidence in the information):
- WP / H&F / SLP (H&F hours are brutal but the people are much nicer than WP / SLP)
Entirely group-dependent (and as a subset office-dependent) as it is with any MF. TMT is known to have a generally better WLB but it all depends on who you're working for directly. And for the record, even post-COVID while people may have varied experiences with how their firms/groups have handled the WFH culture, it's not like you'll see a very material shift in how things are done/facetime is expected
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Comp is lower than peers. Hours are average, nothing like Apollo hours. Culture obviously group dependent... but generally will work you hard as a first year associate (to be expected)
what is average? 70?
I've heard 80 (up to 100 like any MFPE)
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From chats with other people from my banking class, have heard hours are bad, but not Apollo / H&F level. General consensus among my friend group - from worst to best hours (each line is a general bucket)
Small sample size, should be directionally helpful
Would say this was true pre-COVID - from friends from my banking class, would say it's changed slightly (only including those where I have high confidence in the information):
- WP / H&F / SLP (H&F hours are brutal but the people are much nicer than WP / SLP)
- BX / APO
- TPG / KKR
- WCAS
Note that this ignores compensation (WP and WCAS are on the low end, APO / H&F / SLP on high end), just hours / culture.
Appreciate the breakdown! Would you have any insights on how Carlyle / Ares / Oaktree compare to the names above?
Did SLP increase comp recently? heard they paid below the other MFs
Is this for NYC? Curious on differences in NYC / SF offices for H&F, SLP and WP
bump how is culture? at analyst level too
Any idea which groups have the worst hours/culture? Have heard that TMT is one of the better ones
Entirely group-dependent (and as a subset office-dependent) as it is with any MF. TMT is known to have a generally better WLB but it all depends on who you're working for directly. And for the record, even post-COVID while people may have varied experiences with how their firms/groups have handled the WFH culture, it's not like you'll see a very material shift in how things are done/facetime is expected
Very group dependent. TMT is okay. FIG team is a complete bloodbath.
Industrials?
Any idea of hours for Apax / Apax Digital? Which bucket does it fall under?
Anyone have updated thoughts on this? Especially for Industrials and Services and SIG now that they are split
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