Would it be acceptable to put down post 1st yr gpa (3.7)? I had a very difficult time freshman year (almost homeless for a short while, working just to go to school, sophomore year i finally got settled)..I've maintained a near 4.0 since then, and I feel that putting down my overall cumulative GPA doesn't accurately represent my intelligence/drive...would it be acceptable? or should I just go with my cumulative GPA which is like a 3.4 ....advice/suggestions
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when applying for Equity Research jobs I put the overall GPA, my GPA in my Econ/Finance class, and my GPA over the last 4 semesters of college. I actually got some pretty positive feedback from interviewers that said it demonstarted my analytic capabilities b/c I went though the trouble of breaking it out.
are you serious!!! obviously if you put down a post freshman GPA you are flat out lying...dose it say on your application "GPA after freshman year"? NO it says GPA! Like I dont mean to go off, but there is so much GPA bullshit on this forum; by kids that just want to lie about thier poor grades and claim some excuse. Well everybody had a bad freshman year. Perhaps you in-major GPA will look good against your 3.4
But if you want to put down a 3.7 your are scum. taking away jobs from kids who really worked to get their GPA's where they are. And you know this!! I dont know why you are asking this question! it is these questions that have driven off the solid people that once made up Ibankingoasis.
p.s. on a side note, you will be flagged hardcore by HR. they get official transcripts before you start work.
best of luck bringing up your grades
^^^I don't understand why you got so excited.... but I feel that if I put down 3.4 I probably won't even get looked at and just tossed off into the garbage by HR, if I put the post 1st yr GPA 3.7 however, then they might flag it sure, they might grill it hard.... but at least they are looking at it...and the idea is to try to get an interview? correct me if I'm wrong...and also if i got a 4.0 in my finance major and a 3.5 cumulative, would that be good for ibanking?(at a non target)
you are wrong. If you are caught lying you will nto get the job, they will NOT give you a chance to prove yourself. worse yet, wall street is very small, people talk. This is your call, but you would be lying and no employer would see it as "awww poor kid couldnt handle freshman year, and lied to get the job. well i understand lets hire him over a this 3.9 math major from MIT"
No bro... I mean do you see? by the way 3.4 is not the worst. you can still get noticed, you just have to work extra hard to open the doors that you alone have closed.
if none of this matters to you, the last thing i can suggest before you go fucking yourself and others over, is to write next to your gpa (post freshman year) otherwise you are lying, and 90% chance you will get caught
lmao @ you suggesting to go fuck myself...why are you catching feelings? i dont understand....
I see how you could have had a valid point "No bro... I mean do you see? by the way 3.4 is not the worst. you can still get noticed, you just have to work extra hard to open the doors that you alone have closed"
but "Post 1st year GPA" is the same thing as what you just finished suggesting I put down "GPA (post freshman year)"...so you are actually agreeing with my original post...
thanks for taking the time though, its the thought that counts
it was unclear that you meant you would actually type that. I really suggested it only to be nice, it is an awful idea. they will assume your performance is much worse than it is.
Don't pull that, your transcript goes to HR
Also, writing "post-freshmen year" GPA simply isn't a good idea...its still 2/5 of your college year up to summer analyst recruiting and would set off red flags
Just get a 4.0 this semester and get cum. to a 3.5-3.6, and you'll be fine.
I think you might have it tough since you go to a non-target. What I mean is having a 3.5 at a non-target, from what I gather by the perspective on this board, is low (need like a 3.8 or something. Search for non-target threads).
I wouldn't lie. This stuff always comes back to bite you in the ass. If anything, use this as a experience and talk about it. Or if you have a viable explanation, that would probably help too (sick family member, depression, whatever.) People like a good story about bouncing back/turning it all around.
Hey what if i got a 4 the previous semester do you think itll be okay if i mention it on my resume like ( Spring'xx-4) after mentioning my cum GPA...
Really in the end it's the interview that matters, not the GPA. Non-target/target... who cares! I went to the definition of a non-target school, and had a 3.6 on my resume when I was applying for jobs my senior year (eventually graduated with a 3.7). I worried about it a ton like you did, but in the end I got a job and no interviewer ever made a big stink about my GPA, they were more concerned about my other experience.
^^^was it ibanking?
Your resume will look weird if you add a little disclaimer. Some places will ask you for an unofficial transcript. That's your place to distinguish your upswing from sophomore year on. Other than that, just stick with your cum major of a 3.4 and major gpa of 4.0.
To tell the truth, at a target school, 3.5 is supposedly the cutoff, but I have a slew of friends in BB's with 3.3's and 3.4s, both ibanking and capital markets. Of course there are those kids with 3.8s and 3.9s, but from my personal experience, there is no one 'cut off point' (maybe a 3.0).
Post-freshman GPA on resume (Originally Posted: 03/28/2010)
If I remove my freshman year from my GPA, it goes up .2 points. Do you think firms would frown upon putting both cumulative and a "post-freshman" GPA?
Use a major GPA instead?
Use Cumulative and Major GPA
those are worse
my major gpa is lower for econ, but higher for my policy major. it would be weird if I only put the policy one wouldn't it?
How bad are they?
3.1 econ 3.7 policy 3.4 cumulative 3.6 post freshman
Do you think its worth it for the small .2 difference? Sometimes people weed out kids for being below 3.5
Just do whatever makes the modified GPA look higher while still being reasonably honest.
Whenever people put modified GPAs (e.g. major GPA, last two years GPA, etc) it always looks weird. But its common and I think most people understand.
People would be able to give better opinions on what to put if you were willing to tell us your cumulative, post-freshman, policy major and econ major GPAs.
"Post freshman" GPA would definitely look bad on a resume. I don't know why people ever consider listing anything other than the cumulative GPA reported on their transcript or MAYBE the major GPA. Manufacturing your own GPA, whether it be by listing "post freshman" or factoring in non university approved classes is never a good idea. Especially in the world of banking, where most MDs have a "no nonsense, straight to the point" personality, doing something like listing post freshman GPA will immediately get your resume passed over. Your cumulative GPA is not that bad. If you have other solid selling points on your resume you still should be able to get some interviews. I'd list only your cumulative (actual) GPA.
Thanks.
I would drop the econ major, and list cumulative and policy major GPA. And list relevant coursework (econ or otherwise)
Well I'm basically finished with the major (I only need one class). Is there enough reason to not double major just over having a bad GPA in that specific major?
Will poor first year grades impact long-term employment prospects? (Originally Posted: 01/13/2017)
I'm currently a first year student at Queen's commerce. I recently received my first semester grades
Probably nobody will care. At least in the U.S., firms virtually never look at your transcript for specific classes or grades. What really matters is your cumulative GPA, which you'll definitely be able to raise in the next few semesters.
Kids these days... chill out
Nobody cares for your first year in the US (Europe is a different story since you apply for summer internships after your first year)
First year University grades (Originally Posted: 09/25/2013)
Their are many people here from America and I was wondering out of interest do your first year grades count in America? In Uk they dont so when they ask for your cumulative grades would it be ok to say 2:1, which is what you should be on track for when you graduation and then say expected?
Every semester counts in the USA
that sucks man. attendance must be high in lectures
^expect for brown, i think.
There is no 2:1 designation in North America, if you didn't already know. All grades count, and Cumulative GPA is all that counts really. Although you should really be asking: to what end? Are you applying for a job? Worried about grad school applications? Etc. Also, not all courses are equal in weight. For instance, if you were majoring in accounting and you did really well in your fundamental courses and terribly in that Introduction to Thermodynamics elective you took and are applying to an accounting job, I'm sure they wouldn't care. A lot of places don't even ask for your transcripts or don't bother with them that much. Though they'll always catch lies. If you're asking this because of future grad school applications, I know a lot of schools will just look at your last two years and important courses. I wouldn't slack off for the first two though...
thanks. I am wondering because for some banks you have to say what grade you are achieving/expected to achieve and i was wondering I can tell the truth about what I have achieved or say this is what I am expected to get because the first year has no bearing on your degree.
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