Why Do Europeans Smoke So Much?

What's going on over on that side of the pond that everyone loves cigarettes so much? 

Doesn't feel as prevalent in the states especially among young people who have switched to vapes or pouches. 

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Europe isn’t a country. Smoking rates vary place to place. 

But if we’re going to generalize, yes, smoking rates are higher in Europe as a whole. A couple random reasons: 

  • Anti-smoking campaigns started far later, so they’re not as far down the proverbial path. You’re still allowed to smoke at restaurants at outside tables in many places. Some countries only somewhat recently banned indoor smoking in restaurants.
  • There is less moralizing about vices in general in various European countries. Applies to sex, nudity, alcohol, etc.
  • Speaking of, many places have vices unique to their culture. Americans, for instance, are far fatter and louder in general compared to many Europeans (although Spain matches us on volume and Brits are gaining on our waistlines)
  • In America, smoking is generally considered trashy or low class these days. It doesn’t have that same connotation in a number of European countries.
  • In many European countries, especially in Eastern Europe, tobacco is much cheaper than it is in the States. You have fewer people quitting just for financial reasons.
  • People walk more in Europe, so you simply notice smokers more, whereas in America many smoke in their cars. 
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Rates are only marginally higher in the EU. Eurostat data shows that cigarettes + e-devices combined resulted in c.21-22%, whist CDC data states it is just shy of 20% in the US.

I also don't know if all of the above are fair points. Not sure if smoking is seen as more trashy in the US, it is more related to class. Smoking blue collar workers are seen as "trashier" in both places, whilst someone in a suit would not look the same. Same for anti-smoking campaigns; they started in the early 1970s (in line with the US) across Northern Europe and only lagged in Southern Europe (similarly to less developed US states). Tobacco is cheaper in Eastern Europe, but that is comparable to Mexican or Central American tobacco which gets smuggled by the tonnes into the US. 

Finally, the US is also not "a single country" by that logic since state-level rates vary; you have close to 25% use amongst adults in places like Kentucky / West Virginia and less than 10% in California or Utah.

Overall, rates are not vastly different and I think the lack of major differences is due to many cultural similarities between the regions. If you look at a totally different part of the world, especially culturally, c.30% of adults in ASEAN countries smoke. Now that's a major difference.

 
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Finally, the US is also not "a single country" 

…my man, what? 

You’re just arguing to argue. More than half of the points you made just agree with mine even if you present them as opposing. 

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A few thing hear don’t make sense.

  • Those rates you provided are for smoking + e-cigarettes. There could still be much higher levels of smoking in most of Europe since e-cigarettes are so much less popular there. In fact the WHO just announced that Europe now have the highest rates of smoking in the world, over taking SE Asia who you yourself cite as people who really smoke a lot.
  • The fact that anti-smoking campaigns only started later in Southern Europe actually supports the original point. As a Northern European who has spends a lot of a time in Southern Europe, they smoke much more than us suggesting this is a causal factor.
  • It’s not fair to compare the price of smuggled tobacco in the US to legal tobacco in Europe as by far the majority of consumers are not using smuggled tobacco. It is also cheaper in Europe outside of just the East.
  • Of course the US is vastly different across states but this is nowhere near comparable to the cultural differences across Europe- I don’t see how you could honestly argue that. And the rates of tobacco use vary more e.g 6% in Sweden and 38% in Bulgaria.
 

I feel like a lot of people smoke in NYC as well. Even though they carry the most expensive cigarettes in the country.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

what u talking about. Every other Gen Z and younger millenials are bringing back tobacco (and techno) after their month long stint in Berlin

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CRE made good points, I'd also point out that while smoking is very present in much of Europe, here in the US I've seen far more vaping and e cig stuff in recent decades compared to Europe. People love Tobacco, regardless of nationallity. 

 

probably because European cultures revolve more around gathering at cafes or outdoor with friends, starting from adolescence, so they pick it up from others / see it at other tables 

Americans usually meet in groups to do some sort of activity: hiking, partying, excursion, etc. rather than sitting on a chair for hours and just talk (and when they do, it's indoors or at some family-oriented chain that doesn't allow smoking)

because many adolescents that pick up smoking don't do it after seeing the garbage man at a corner smoking and questioning his life, they will see some group having fun and smoking, and will want to replicate that in their lives / pick up habits and the style of that group

incentives trumph ethics
 

Among my friends, I am literally the only person who doesn't smoke. Every single friend I have is a heavy smoker or now into vaping.  It's sad, but Europe is like that IMO.

 

It's probably because their packs are more entertaining. Nothing screams "buy me" quite like a pair of disintegrated lungs on a pack of cigs. In the States all we have are these boring ass white boxes. 

Better advertising = more sales

 

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