Debt Originations Comp Structure?
Currently on the originations track at a decently sized mortgage banking shop (think W&D, Grandbridge, etc.). We are a lean team in a MCOL city (couple producers, couple support staff). Most of our business is Fannie/Freddie/HUD/LifeCo perm, but we also do plenty with local banking relationships.
I know it varies from company to company, but how does comp generally work in these roles? For example, it’s my understanding that a producer doing $1M in fees will likely have to split that 50/50 with “the house”. Is this split after meeting their draw, or before? Does the split cover overhead (office rent, support staff salaries, etc.), or do these items get paid back separately too?
I will eventually discuss these mechanics with the office head, but it’s not the right time to do that yet.
I’ve always assumed the producer nets about 35-40% of gross fees, but I’d really like to know if anyone has a better look “behind the curtain”.
Based on the most helpful WSO content, compensation structures in debt originations can indeed vary significantly depending on the firm, market, and specific agreements. However, here are some general insights into how these roles are typically structured:
Fee Splits:
Overhead Costs:
Net Earnings for Producers:
Additional Considerations:
When the timing is appropriate, discussing these details with your office head will provide clarity on how your specific firm's mechanics work.
Sources: Origination Fees on +$100MM Loans, Let's Talk About Broker Compensation, What is your compensation in Real Estate Finance?, What is your compensation in Real Estate Finance?
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Every place will have different fee splits so whatever I may anecdotally note will likely be different than how your firm operates. I would just have the conversation with your boss or another producer you feel comfortable with who will show you how the fee structures work.
That said, when I was doing similar work as an analyst, our producers operated on a waterfall structure, which after a while could be around 60%. These guys were also plugging fees anywhere they could - cash, spread, servicing, securitization, etc.
I worked at a similar place. Producers were on a 200k draw and fee split was roughly 50-50 until draw was covered, 60/40 to the producer for the next million in fees and 70/30 to the producer thereafter. As an analyst I got 10% of my producer’s net pay over his draw.
The old guys also get massive recurring income from their share of servicing.
Does this mean producers get a share of servicing fees on Fannie/Life Co loans that our firm charges? I know we have a very large servicing book, but I always figured that revenue went to the house.
More than likely, yes they do get a share of fees. Servicing (and MSRs during down periods) is the most profitable arm of these shops.
We get a lump sum of roughly half the projected servicing income paid out with our origination fee. It’s nice
Yes, something like 6 bps per year which adds up!
Wow, I’ve never heard producers talk about servicing revenue as it pertains to their income. It’s always origination fees and premium. I guess I will know in due time…
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