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US Ambassador to Libya Assassinated
 

Edmundo Braverman's picture
ST
(Human, 14,391
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 7:46am
Libya burning.jpg

I'm going to keep this short because I know there's no way I can print what I really think without inciting a flame war of epic proportions. J. Christopher Stevens, the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, was murdered by Muslim extremists in Benghazi today. Protesters stormed the US Consulate and burned it to the ground. Stevens was suffocated in his car, and the three diplomats with him were shot to death.

This is in addition to the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Cairo yesterday.

How should the U.S. respond?

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fermion's picture

you can change the regime,

O
(Baboon, 132
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 7:55am

you can change the regime, but you can't change the people.

GS's picture

Is this enough provocation

ST
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 7:56am

Is this enough provocation for boots on the ground?

duffmt6's picture

Really sad/fucked up

IB
(Neanderthal, 2,327
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 8:03am

Really sad/fucked up situation. My view has always been to stay the fuck out of Middle Eastern affairs, but I realize it's a complicated issue.

"Social cohesion and puritanical morality place roughly on my list of concerns between whether I'll pick up jock itch at the gym this week (not likely, since I don't go the gym) and whether it'll rain in Christchurch, New Zealand next Tuesday."
-Eddie

hockey1316's picture

Killing a US diplomat is

CO
(Gorilla, 504
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 8:06am

Killing a US diplomat is serious enough to incite military action but I believe it will not happen b/c in 2 months we have an election and Obama wont risk sending troops to Libya after his main campaign strategy was to be different from the Bush era that sent troops in too quickly.

El_Mono's picture

Its a really sad thing, all

IB
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 8:12am

Its a really sad thing, all those people clearly are more cult followers than anything else by their behavior. I know I bash America every once in a while, but seeing this happening as a western makes me feel as if those things, those creatures come from the fucking dark ages. There should be a "mock mohammed (or however it is written) day" in all western nations, come and get us all.

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West Coast rainmaker's picture

I don't want another war, but

ER
(Neanderthal, 2,072
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 8:16am

I don't want another war, but "strong condemnation" is a wholly inadequate response. I would like any retaliation to specifically target the group that attacked the embassy. Drone strikes, special forces raids, etc. We don't need to "fix" Libya/Egypt...I doubt that's even possible.

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This is why the West should

O
(Neanderthal, 2,027
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 8:20am

This is why the West should never intervene in other countries, especially not under the terribly fake message of "protecting the people" that was used in Libya and is being used in Syria. The 'rebels' are just bands of different militia who do NOT have the Libyan people's best interests at heart and just want power for themselves.

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Addinator's picture

The issue is, we are so jaded

ST
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 8:22am

The issue is, we are so jaded from years of conflicts over there that the response is very well going to be muted. In fact, I didn't even realize they stormed it and burned it until I read your post this morning. Our media is fucking disgraceful, and for this to come right after the anniversary of September 11th it really gets me going. Obama will surely do little because he has an election coming up. Frankly, it reminds me how pathetic our leaders are if they allow attacks like this to go unpunished. You simply can't let this go. It would be shameful if we did.

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Addinator: The issue is, we

HF
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 8:29am
Addinator:

The issue is, we are so jaded from years of conflicts over there that the response is very well going to be muted. In fact, I didn't even realize they stormed it and burned it until I read your post this morning. Our media is fucking disgraceful, and for this to come right after the anniversary of September 11th it really gets me going. Obama will surely do little because he has an election coming up. Frankly, it reminds me how pathetic our leaders are if they allow attacks like this to go unpunished. You simply can't let this go. It would be shameful if we did.

Don't worry, even when our pussy-in-chief doesn't authorize it, we're still taking care of business when something happens to one of our own. You just won't hear him take credit for it.

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GS's picture

I'd wager the retaliation for

ST
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 8:43am

I'd wager the retaliation for this will be more 'Munich' style than full boots on the ground (which is a stupid idea)

Relinquis's picture

It's always sad to see death.

RE
(Neanderthal, 2,186
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 8:52am

It's always sad to see death. You have to remember that Libya is still a war zone.

Not to be controversial, but maybe an appropriate response would be to leave the country (Libya). I mean Obama decided to pick sides in a civil war and, through NATO, repeatedly bomb the country and depose its dictator. The attack on the embassy in Libya is a direct consequence of US presence there and US involvement in the Libyan war and, most likely, continued involvement in the internal affairs of the country.

These are all post-colonial countries/societies (Middle East & North Africa). It's been less than a generation/lifetime since most of them got rid of the previous imperial occupiers (Britain, France & Italy) after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Maybe it's best if the US doesn't seem like it's taking their place through occupations, bombing and support of various different political factions/regimes.

Maybe this incident could have been avoided if Obama had sought congressional approval of the war. I don't know.

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Today we did what we had to

CF
(Neanderthal, 2,216
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 8:54am

Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong — Ronald Reagan

That being said, USA is always sending in civilian contractors and SpecOps teams to do dirty shit. If you think you can burn down an American embassy and kill our ambassadors without there being repercussions, you are wrong.

You're born, you take shit. You get out in the world, you take more shit. You climb a little higher, you take less shit. Till one day you're up in the rarefied atmosphere and you've forgotten what shit even looks like. Welcome to the layer cake, son.

happypantsmcgee's picture

I'm going to ask the obvious

O
(Almost Human, 9,621
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 8:59am

I'm going to ask the obvious question; why didnt the Marines stationed there send a couple hundred of these fucks with the Ambassador to the great beyond? Pretty sure protecting the Ambassador is rather high on the list when you're an embassy guard. Pretty embarassing for them and infuriating for me.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

adapt or die's picture

Obama is such a bitch McCain

(King Kong, 1,233
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 9:08am

Obama is such a bitch

McCain would've handled these clowns

mikebrady's picture

Killing a diplomat will

 
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 on 9/12/12 at 9:16am

Killing a diplomat will probably never warrant sending troops to a country, in the public's eyes, regardless of an election. This does not exclude covert action. I'm sure we have "Analysts" on the ground working their contacts to bring down the people responsible.

BlackHat's picture

Correct me if I'm wrong, but

HF
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 9:18am

I hate victims who respect their executioners

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Addinator's picture

Statement by the President on

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 on 9/12/12 at 9:20am

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BlackHat: Correct me if I'm

O
(Almost Human, 9,621
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 9:20am

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

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happypantsmcgee: BlackHat:

HF
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 9:24am

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Edmundo Braverman's picture

happypantsmcgee: I'm going to

ST
(Human, 14,391
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 9:33am

jrsoxfan18's picture

There is no solution to the

(Monkey, 33
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 9:36am
UFOinsider's picture

happypantsmcgee: why didnt

O
(Human, 10,347
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 9:36am

YOU JUST GOT TROLLED
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Edmundo Braverman's picture

Happy, Just as I suspected,

ST
(Human, 14,391
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 9:41am

Kenny Powers's picture

BlackHat: Correct me if I'm

O
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 9:48am

pick em, lick em, stick em

happypantsmcgee's picture

Edmundo

O
(Almost Human, 9,621
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 9:51am

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

Edmundo Braverman's picture

Looks like they decided to

ST
(Human, 14,391
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:06am

UFOinsider's picture

Edmundo Braverman: backward

O
(Human, 10,347
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:08am

YOU JUST GOT TROLLED
http://www.troll.me/images/red-foreman322/dont-you...

fermion's picture

this is mogadishu

O
(Baboon, 132
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:13am
El_Mono's picture

Kenny

IB
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 10:14am

Valor is of no service, chance rules all, and the bravest often fall by the hands of cowards. - Tacitus

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Neighbor's picture

Fuck Libya

IB
(King Kong, 1,236
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:25am

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.

TNA's picture

Considering how much the

O
(Human, 13,530
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 10:16am

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Ben Shalom Bernanke's picture

Edmundo Braverman: Filthy,

AM
(King Kong, 1,423
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 10:22am
TheKing's picture

Seeing the images of them

O
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 10:27am

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adapt or die's picture

TheKing: --Stick a giant hose

(King Kong, 1,233
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:30am
mongoose's picture

I'll make a longer post on

O
(King Kong, 1,029
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:30am
fermion's picture

TNA: Considering how much the

O
(Baboon, 132
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:33am
happypantsmcgee's picture

President Obama has to

O
(Almost Human, 9,621
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:33am

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

Ben Shalom Bernanke's picture

TheKing: Seeing the images of

AM
(King Kong, 1,423
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:33am
UFOinsider's picture

TNA: while I instinctively

O
(Human, 10,347
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:38am

YOU JUST GOT TROLLED
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happypantsmcgee: President

O
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 10:37am

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TheKing: Seeing the images of

O
(Gorilla, 643
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 10:40am

I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different.
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Fuck you Libya.

O
(Almost Human, 9,621
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:41am

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

burnt tangerine's picture

BlackHat: Correct me if I'm

(Baboon, 120
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 10:46am
Red Raider's picture

The United States was

(Monkey, 41
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 10:53am
CaR's picture

happypantsmcgee: Fuck you

O
(Gorilla, 643
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:52am

I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different.
Kurt Vonnegut

West Coast rainmaker's picture

Edmundo Braverman: Filthy,

ER
(Neanderthal, 2,072
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:52am
happypantsmcgee's picture

Ambassador's bio

O
(Almost Human, 9,621
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:53am

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

Relinquis's picture

TheKing: Seeing the images of

RE
(Neanderthal, 2,186
 
Points)
 on 9/12/12 at 10:57am

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TNA's picture

" there is a perpetual war

O
(Human, 13,530
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 10:57am

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when we give foreign aid to

O
(Baboon, 132
 
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 on 9/12/12 at 10:58am

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