How are you spending your unemployment time?
I am just curious hw is everyone spending their time without a job.
For me: 1. do some cardio in the morning 2. read the news and check my portfolio 3. apply to jobs (goal is 20 postings per day) 4. cold call/email recuiters on linkedin 5. go partying if it is the weekend.
So what is everyone else doing?
you apply to 20 jobs a day !!?? Are you just applying to anything and everything out there ?
My aim was IB but..... a month passed so I expanded to Capital Markets... another month passed so I expanded to Corporate Finance.... and another month has passed so I have expanded my search to McDonalds...but I still can't get my Do-You-Want-Fries-With-That line right :)
All kidding aside, I think the job market in Canada is showing some recovery since I received some call backs lately.
LMAO!
Hey iyados, I'm cdn too. Just curious - where are you looking up posts to be able to apply up to 20 a day?
lots of places, Doostang, linkedin, vlaadco.com, simplyhired.ca, mbajobs.ca, craiglist.....etc
i feel so terrible today. My bro got an offer on London for one of the BB but they revoked it because he didnt pass the security check and they dont want to say why... i feel pretty bad
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was cleaning the pipes every 6 hours thanks to youporn.
lol
hahah you are something else
Thanks iyados, I'll check them out. Sorry to hear about your bro's situation. Hopefully he can reach HR on Monday to get some more concrete details on why the security didn't clear to sort it out.
Thanks for asking, and for the record I spend most of my time thinking about the best mechanical engineer Calgary has to offer, and whether or not they are developing better ways to help the environment. Maybe thinking about energy modeling isn't the best way to relax, but it's what happens nonetheless.
Unemployed People (Originally Posted: 08/19/2008)
What is everyone doing that is still unemployed? I spend 8 hours a day looking/networking for jobs...anyone having luck out there? It's a brutal time in this industry.
Unemployed as in post-grad? I'm a rising senior, didn't get an offer for full time, and feel VERY unemployed
I'm studying for GREs and case interviews... finance is pretty much at the back of my mind
yeh!
Just networking like mad, keeping up with the recruiters and brushing up on my FA skills.
have you been getting interviews? what positions are you looking for?
for me, sometime its slow and other times its busy. wanted to see how it was for you.
I have been interviewing a little. One week I had three interviews and now I have been cold for the past two. The last two weeks in August are the worst because everyone is on vacation. I was a third year who got laid-off right before promotion to associate. I am looking for PE and hedge funds junior positions...banking jobs are out there but at boutiques which I am also looking into. Never seen a job market like this before. How about you?
are interviewing this early?
waking up at 3pm, browsing the intrabutts in my boxers and eating taco bell 4 days a week. beat that.
..the only way to live
interesting
Personally, I think anyone would be nuts to leave their current position without another one in hand. The market is extremely tight right now and it is a dog eat dog world for associate spots in PE. In addition, the flood of resumes into my bank has been at an all time high.
How long have you been unemployed? (Originally Posted: 09/15/2010)
Hey guys, for those of you out of school. How long have you been unemployed? How are your prospects looking? Ive been out for almost 2 years now and have just been volunteering. Previous experience 3-4 years of banking and equity research.
you have 3-4 years of experience but are only 2 years out of school? you mean b-school right? otherwise how, what, where?
Oreos... read... "Out for almost 2 years" as in out of a job for almost 2 years. You haven't found anything in 2 years? Are you keeping your standards to high or did you just bank enough in those 3-4 years that you can afford to just hang out an volunteer?
With 3-4 yrs experience in banking/research while some firms have/had started to hiring, I would think you'd at least get a decent number of interviews. Did you try reaching out to your contacts at banks? Or asking them to keep a lookout for you?
There was a girl on this forum who had her offer rescinded because it was bear/lehman, and was out of school a year with no FT exp (but some decent banking internships). After she posted her story on WSO, she managed to land something (either via her own contacts from her old bosses now at other banks, or through WSOers who got her resume). Maybe you can reach out in the same way.
3-4 years of experience and you haven't been able to find anything ? What kind of positions have you been looking at ?
sorry to hear that :( let us know how things go for you in the future
Unemployment…..or dream vacation? (Originally Posted: 03/30/2009)
Ok, so you couldn’t dodge the pink slip. Now what? Before you fall into a bon bon induced coma on the couch, why not try your hand at winning a dream vacation? What the hell, you’ve got nothing but time these days anyway, right?
Wyndham Worldwide’s Endless Vacation Rentals is gunning for you. They’re giving away a free vacation to the best jobless sob story in 100 words or less. The catch is, it has to be funny. The winner gets a one week vacation rental valued at $2,500 and a $1,500 Visa gift card to spend. Runner up gets a $1,500 trip. Readers vote their favorites and the winners are set to be selected in May.
So dig out the laptop (you know the one - it’s currently serving as a coaster to your half empty bottle of gin) and get writing. But be fair warned, I hear Bernie Madoff’s entering too, and his story is a HOOT. Good luck!
why do you do this to wsoasis? why do you make all your posts sound like a cheesy commercial?
i agree... why do you have 800 posts on here when you aren't even employed by anyone on wall street?
I think she works as a contractor for Patrick.
yeah she does.... and its funny because all of her stupid posts get pushed up to the front page on here and they rarely generate any discussion except for people making fun of her for being an idiot
lol you need to relax
If you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all. It makes you look bad, especially if it's a woman.
Having Luck After Unemployment in this Market? (Originally Posted: 04/25/2009)
I've read this forum for awhile, but never posted. I was laid off from one of the large BBs back in August (think GS, MS). I was focused on transitioning directly to private equity afterwards, but have not been able to land a position. I've been working with all the major recruiters and continuing to network, but have not received information on any new PE openings in the last few months. I've not seen many unemployment to PE success stories posted in the recent past, but if anyone has been in the same position and managed to land something in private equity, hopefully you wouldn't mind posting your story. Definitely would be nice/inspiring to see some success in this market.
hey, sorry to hear about your situation. but if you've been out of work since august, don't you think it's probably time to start focusing on a new exit strategy other than PE/buyside? the longer you are out of work, unless you were a very senior employee, the less options you are going to have. competition for PE is going to be cutthroat, especially now that hiring's down and lots of bankers have been downsized and are looking for work.
best of luck though.
So you've been looking for that PE position since August and that's it ? not open to going back into Banking ?
I've also been applying to business school as a backup. PE is my first choice, so wanted to see if anyone is having much luck in this market.
You've had a nice little break for a few months... What have you been up to?
Sorry to hear about the situation. I was able to land an offer at a solid PE firm after four months of unemployment--I was laid off last November. Opportunities are limited, but still out there. I was at Goldman and used the alumni network. Definitely a helpful resource if you were with GS--especially since the majority of open PE positions are not being given to the recruiters given the massive amount of candidates in the market. Best of luck in the search!
Does a year of unemployment after college make me DOA? (Originally Posted: 07/21/2014)
This is partly hypothetical. I graduated from a target in 2013 without an offer. Stayed in the US on my F1 Visa until that expired. Tried to find a job remotely from home (middle of nowhere) for a few months, then moved to "the big city" to be closer to the action sometime before Christmas - completely off-cycle. Long story short, it was a long and discouraging road, but I eventually got an offer (ironically back in the US from a career services resume drop) and start next month.
I worked as a research assistant for four months after going home, but otherwise in terms of resume tangibles there isn't much - in part because I was physically all over the place and had one foot out the door at all times. I know there isn't much sympathy for the long-term unemployed on this board, but it does a number on you and it's hard to make firm commitments when you're interviewing for jobs that are geographically all over the place (and the interview come in spurts). But anyway, I'm not trying to make excuses. All my productive efforts to stay sane are the non-verifiable kind: DuoLingo, creative writing, making music, doing Codecademy.
So let's say that I start my career and everything else is competitive for a good program. Top undergrad program, good GPA, internships, good references, GMAT, and experience down the road (hypothetically). I don't know if I want to go to BSchool (especially without a clear idea of what goal it will advance) but optionality is nice. In 3-4-5 years from now, will this one dark period automatically tank my chances?
You're fine. Resume gaps mid-career are a big red flag for MBA admissions, but they won't really care about gaps before your career started...You'll just need to wait an extra year to apply. As long as you show career progressions and such, this won't impact you much at all. Just write some malarkey in 4-5 years how after you graduated event X showed you that you wanted career Y, and you worked for a year towards successfully obtaining that goal - turn it into a strength.
How bad is unemployment going to be next month... (Originally Posted: 06/15/2010)
With the oil disaster cutting jobs along the cost and the moratorium on oil drilling and census workers getting cut HOW BAD IS GOING TO BE!!!!
watermelons? ninjas? pancakes and pokemon?
Crazy tags
i have to say, i wasn't planning on filling out the census but when the guy came to my door soaking wet in the rain, i felt really bad knowing he's probably jobless and i answered his questions.
So it wasn't the multi-million dollar advertising campaign that compelled you? Shocking!
Not that bad in my opinion, everyone is already aware of the census jobs.... You realize the spill might actually CREATE jobs? There are a ton of temporary workers now working the coastline on the cleanup efforts.
lol now i did bc of you :(
I think it's going to be worse than expected once the numbers are actually reviewed. While you will see a rise in temporary work created because of the gulf, you also need to consider the actual job loss and temporary stoppage of work created by the oil spill, the shift from people that would be in the U3 group (Official Unemployed by the ILO) to those that fall into a U4/U5/U6 Designation, those who are now no longer getting Unemployment Benefits and are possibly on EUC benefits and the actual ability to create permanent jobs. I have a feeling that the next jobs report will be possibly on par, if not a bit better, from a temporary perspective but when you break down the actual permanent job creation, I have a feeling that the results will be abysmal. I will be shocked if we have more permanent jobs created on a comparative percentage basis (IE 41K permanent Jobs was ~9.1% of total jobs created last month) than on a numeric basis. I would rather see 100K new jobs created with 50K being permanent instead of 450K created with only 41K being permanent.
But that's my two cents. What do I know.
Unemployment report is BS. They revise it ridiculously each month and then again at year end. Not to mention past revisions can be off so much that BLS doesn't even get the direction right.
Unemployed WSO Resources (Originally Posted: 01/06/2012)
In response to the other thread "JohnMcclane" posted I wanted to expand on his and have a resource where the unemployed WSOers could post what they do/did, something relevant about themselves, what they want to do, their general geography and hopefully others could post resources in helping them find a job or some sort of help. Hell, even encouragement would be nice for a lot of people. I'd prefer this be for unemployed/underemployed, but it can be a great resource for all interested.
I'll start:
I just received notice yesterday that I was to be laid off. I don't know the exact date yet, I have a meeting next week and will find out then. There is a chance that it may not be until this summer. At the worst it will be in early to mid March. Good thing for me is I will receive severance, unused vacation, prorated bonus and a retention bonus I signed. This will equal about 30% of my annual salary, so I'm not too worried, yet.
My position was a Credit Analyst and I work for an international bank in their real estate finance division. I do really like real estate, but am definitly not against change. I am located in Houston and may be mobile depending on the opportunity. It's a little harder for me because I'm married and she has a really good job at an engineering firm here.
Currently I use 2 job search engines: indeed.com and simplyhired.com
Any more that you guys can add would be great.
Bloomberg Terminal --> JOBS
Buy a ticket for Energy Rodeo in the next 8 hours if you want to stay in Houston and have any interest in energy. At the very least you'll expand your network.
I am going to the Rodeo. I went last year as well. Thanks for the advice guys.
Hopefully we can keep this going and some people will get some use out of it.
Sorry to hear about the pink slip. Hold your head high and start applying soon. I have a friend who never would have caught his lucky break had he not been laid off. Ended up getting a much better job while still receiving severance (essentially getting double paid).
Thanks Comp, SB for you.
Struggling with Unemployment (Originally Posted: 08/07/2011)
Hi guys,
I have been unemployed for 3? 4? months now and I have to say that it is starting to really wear me out. I worked in real estate banking as an analyst for a boutique in New York and money is getting tight and expenses are going through my limited savings. I have maybe another 2? 3? months before I need to move back home unless I have some income outside of unemployment.
I recently started to apply to temp agencies but they aren't getting back to me--mainly because I don't have the experience and you don't need someone like me to be an admin.
I have some skills in biz dev/tech and a startup ($8 million in annual revenues) approached me to help with their biz dev. I am interviewing with them and while I would not have been interested normally, I could really use the cash. I'll take it if offered but wanted to know your thoughts on making ends meet.
I looked into elance etc but the pay is awful and there are no jobs I am qualified for.
Would appreciate thoughts/ideas. I have thought about pitching my skills to PE firms as a freelancer but doubt it would work. Is there an elance for bankers?
Struggling
REach out to your school's alums Find job fairs in your area Brush up on accounting and see if you can get something there, it's never a bad experience. Work on getting a job every single day as if it was your full time job and you will find something. Then work from there.
Not in a position to offer advice with this but that's rough man. Good luck...
PM me your resume
Good luck man.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-08/global-banks-poised-to-slash-1…
I told the cofounder that I was interested in the VC space. Her pitch to me is help her with capital raising, operations, biz dev and she can facilitate a move to VC down the road. The truth is though that her business model isn't particularly strong and I am a little worried that it is a fool's errand to try and raise capital in this environment with her business. (though I am surprised they have generated so much cash on ad sales). Have folks successfully raised VC money before? I'd love to chat at some point. Her company is not well known--meaning it won't be like working for a foursquare, twitter, groupon where there is name recognition.
Other than that as a next step, what other roles could I explore in the internet space? CFO? CEO of my own thing?
What are your thoughts on leaving finance and going into internet space? Is there a niche I could go into easily? How can I best pitch it if I want to go back to banking?
So I am still moving forward with the internet company interviews and have a breakfast meeting with the cofounder and then a more formal interview with her partner again. What are your thoughts?
How to combat unemployment? (Originally Posted: 01/14/2013)
Experienced, capable and seemingly unemployable.
I've got 3 years of PE and 2 years of IB experience. Both fairly name brand shops. I went to non-target undergrad (big public/best-in-state state school).
I've been unemployed for 18 months due to layoffs at my last gig. I have a great recommendation letter from my previous employer that discusses the circumstance under which I was let go saying they'd hire me again if possible, so I can easily explain away the layoff.
My problem is landing the next gig and explaining my extended period of no work. I have consulted on a few things in the past 18 months, but nothing substantive enough to put on my resume. I've gotten very little traction in my search even though I am casting a very wide net (buy-side, sell-side, corp dev/M&A, etc.).
I present/interview well, and my deal experience is very robust for my level, but I'm concerned that my unemployment is causing undue bias against me.
I need your help monkeys! Do you have any thoughts/advice? I really feel I'm a great catch for whoever snatches me up because I'm one hell of a value play (long unemployment=desperate=low comp hurdles). I just need to get someone to see that.
Would love any advice you could provide.
Thanks,
An ape in need
Say you were backpacking across Europe and Asia during that period.
You should probably lower your standards.
Funny you mention. Casting a wider net was my effort to lower my standards. But I took it one step further just to test the waters. I applied to general FP&A roles, comping at a fraction of my previous comp to see if they valued my prior experience. Turns out they didn't quite understand what I've done previously and weren't interested.
This puts me in a funny spot. I'm overqualified for non-corporate finance jobs, but the jobs I'm qualified for don't seem to be hiring...(me anyway).
It didn't occur to me that OP was looking for a lie/excuse Amphi
Don't limit yourself geographically.
Also, maybe I should be more clear. Explaining away the unemployment is easy. My problem is getting interviews when the employer first glances at my resume and sees all my time off.
MBA maybe?
Then from what I have been reading it seems, your resume may be the problem. I suggest posting it on here to get feedback.
The problem is how you explain it to yourself that matters. Of course to yourself it was just time you spent looking for work. But it could also be time you were self-employed. Even if you worked 5% of your time, make that 90%, invent some things you never did, but close to what you did, but in a way that no one will ask you for proof. Then get someone to give you a "character recommendation" which is what I got for some time when I had no idea what to do, basically a gap year that I stayed at home figuring things out. So I got someone to say for me that I was really some kind of self-employed personal tutor which sounded great. Whatever you can get away with, but if you make it sound like you were earning enough money to support yourself and working full-time, it will always be better than saying "I just stayed at home and looked for jobs online". That just sounds too lazy, and it's obvious why that would disadvantage you in applications. Good luck!
If you can't get interviews, the person reviewing your resume probably sees you've been out of work and looks upon it negatively. You might want to consider creating a relevant experience section on your resume to, at least, list what you've been doing the past 18 months. This will show you haven't been just sitting on your ass.
What are all the unemployed doing? (Originally Posted: 10/17/2008)
looking for jobs or giving up?
hopefully collecting unemployment checks, first and foremost
What interests me is the severance package story at the BBs that popped, if there is one?
I'm still looking. I'm about to give up and figure something else out.
Last two months were rough as majority of my final rounds got put on hold. Last week I got a rejection because it wasn't a good fit.
I really don't understand the fit portion anymore. I went in to their offices twice, first round was technical with their analysts and associates asking me about my deals and all the other bullshit. Second round I had to build models for them and answer questions regarding it.
Finally, I got called in to meet their rainmakers and the founder of the firm. All that was asked was tell me about your resume, why our firm, why banking and where do you see urself in the next 3-5 years.
How the fuck is that fit? I loved the rejection call too. We were all impressed by your experience and you very well during ur case study but some people felt that it might not be a good fit for the firm, so we are unable to make u an offer.
Really..cut me a fucking break. Shouldn't u find out first if its a good fit and then get to the part about actually being able to do a good. This bullshit fucking boutiques keep my wasting my goddamn time and money.
Fuck them.
I'm still looking. I'm about to give up and figure something else out.
Last two months were rough as majority of my final rounds got put on hold. Last week I got a rejection because it wasn't a good fit.
I really don't understand the fit portion anymore. I went in to their offices twice, first round was technical with their analysts and associates asking me about my deals and all the other bullshit. Second round I had to build models for them and answer questions regarding it.
Finally, I got called in to meet their rainmakers and the founder of the firm. All that was asked was tell me about your resume, why our firm, why banking and where do you see urself in the next 3-5 years.
How the fuck is that fit? I loved the rejection call too. We were all impressed by your experience and you very well during ur case study but some people felt that it might not be a good fit for the firm, so we are unable to make u an offer.
Really..cut me a fucking break. Shouldn't u find out first if its a good fit and then get to the part about actually being able to do a good job. This bullshit fucking boutiques keep my wasting my goddamn time and money.
Fuck them.
Don't despair, j.krizk. As we all know, IB is all a smokescreen for a lot of insecure people to make themselves feel better. Most of the time, the MDs got to their positions through a rather serendipitous route, and never had to go through the backbreaking interviews applicants are put through these days.
Moreover, the extent that you were brought in is evidence that you are qualified. So you nail the technical questions, explain your dealwork (impressive for an entry level applicant) and somehow you are rejected...
If you haven't seen it already, ib interviews are the biggest amount of BS out there--insecure individuals seeing what oddball questions will make you flinch. Face it, if there was a GENUINE interest in your credentials, they would have hired you. So because some pouty and disgruntled analyst got a bad vibe from you they reject you. Welcome to the overrated, over-hyped and shallow world of IB.
I'll be the first to tell you that when you interview for other firms and other industries (even consulting) there is a GENUINE interest in you and your credentials. MUCH less to NONE of this ib interview hogwash. Face it, the glamorous days of IB are over. It's time for everyone to face the real world.
been collecting unemployment but will be starting work soon at a new firm. this is on the s&t side though. i can tell you first hand its awful out there right now
holy hell it is tough. i got cut in june, have been looking since. came close several times with hedge funds, but no cigar. one of them made me do two cases, nailed both only to reject me. and another fund made me go through 6 rounds before telling me they went with someone else.
still looking, still collecting unemployment. sigh, when will the pain end.
unemployed what should my next moves be (Originally Posted: 02/14/2013)
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End of Feb or End of March?
Ideally it would be #1, but may need to be #2. Tough to know if you should do #4 without knowing exactly what you'd be doing....
Issue with option #3 is this will already be a short stint on your resume, so to have 2 short stints might raise red flags for future recruiters...
Work for your father. You can start working right away, which means no gap on your resume. It would be the easiest one to transfer out of to another job and he will probably be understanding if you need to take time off for interviews/job searching/etc. with regards to your preferred job.
I came across this article a few days ago and I think it may help:
http://www.careerealism.com/things-should-doing-unemployed/?goback=%2Eg…
So I can be a little less vague in the options. So currently I'm in a role working with equity investments. If I were to work for my father for a bit it would probably be working on more general finance type things (reviewing company cash flows, working in random projects, etc.). Of course obviously I could spin this but that's besides the point.
So I guess one of the questions I have now, does it make a difference working for my dad vs working for a company that's a slightly better fit if I plan on hopefully switching a few months after starting if what I really want comes around?
I feel like overall my "ideal" company would understand the downsizing part, but wouldn't they also think it was a good idea for me to switch to another company as soon as possible so that I can continue to learn new skills? Any other thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Side note I'm also taking level 2 of the CFA but I doubt I can use that as an excuse for unemployment for a few months. Any other thoughts would be very helpful.
Also the way I see it, isn't it a win-win if I apply for other jobs if I get accepted at a semi-relatable firm. Worst case, I get turned down. Best case, I get accepted. Right?
A combination of #1 and #4. Job hopping isnt ideal but you're not mid-career either, I think most recruiters would appreciate that it takes a bit of time to find your niche. I'm sure most recruiters will understand being laid off (I wouldnt lie if that was your thinking) and I think it doesnt matter whether you work in a different company or your fathers (ideally in your situation, you'd want to take the job knowing its a temporary thing) as long as you're actually exposed to and using the right skills to transition into your ideal role.
Take a few months off to travel then go work for your dad
Do not fucking do this after getting laid off half a year after graduating.
Within a year of undergrad, he needs to travel? Don't do this. Generally, I'm all for taking a few months to travel but with your situation, it would be lunacy.
before you lose touch with your boss, use them as references and ask them to write you recommendation letters (actual letters you can print for your next interview).
good luck to you
Have you considered taking some time to really get out there and pound the pavement? I think in most states, if you're laid off, you qualify for unemployment. This could give you the free time you need to really get out there and network. I would imagine that most everyone understands that if you're laid off, that resume gaps will occur. Have you considered taking a month to really try to get out there and meet with others in your chosen industry? Looks like you have a great backup plan with #4, so I think this is an avenue worth pursuing.
So it seems that #4 is the favorite, but why is it so much better than #3? Is it because I would have more flexibility in the job search, or is it more because of the repercussions of leaving the first firm after a few months? Or would my "ideal" firm be turned off that I screwed this other company?
4.
Any Unemployed/Working in random gig users here? (Originally Posted: 10/14/2011)
Graduated from a Semi-Target school with a degree in Economics (Think public Ivies, should of majored in Math looking back) can't even land a back office job at any bank.
Currently doing supply/chain logistics, sitting at a desk, preparing shitty forms with names such as "Bill of Lading" and memorizing terms like "Exworks", "FOB" and a bunch of useless terms I'll probably forget the second I leave.
Sometimes I want to just stand up and walk straight out of the office, go back to graduate school just to get another shot at OCR.
Anyone else in a similar predicament? Anyone have any friends/acquaintances that went to an ivy and is unemployed/doing a random gig?
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