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Why do people hate on Moelis at WSO?
 

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24hours
      IB
 
(Monkey, 55
 
Points)
 on 5/5/10 at 8:36pm

Why do people hate on Moelis at WSO?

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l2010's picture

another why do people hate on

l2010
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 on 5/5/10 at 8:38pm

another why do people hate on ....... thread

lol

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l2010's picture

people hate on everything and

l2010
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 on 5/5/10 at 8:38pm

people hate on everything and everyone.... even GS

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cant tell if you are mocking

bunkerbanker
      IB
 
(Baboon, 125
 
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 on 5/5/10 at 9:17pm

cant tell if you are mocking the jeffries thread...

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24hours's picture

wasn't intended for

24hours
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 on 5/5/10 at 9:26pm

wasn't intended for mocking...was supposed to be serious

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People here hate on Citi,

Advisory88
      IB
 
(Orangutan, 298
 
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 on 5/5/10 at 9:33pm

People here hate on Citi, UBS, Jefferies and the list can go on and on.. If you didn't go to an ivy league school and are not working at GS, you will find people on WSO who will tell you that you suck. Use your own judgment considering the fact that a vast majority of posters here have no significant work experience.

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And stop changing your

Advisory88
      IB
 
(Orangutan, 298
 
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 on 5/5/10 at 9:34pm

And stop changing your username every second day.... bankers have attention to detail.

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because they are so over

asdf123456
      IB
 
(Monkey, 41
 
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 on 5/5/10 at 9:37pm

because they are so over rated

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Good catch advisory88... this

bunkerbanker
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 on 5/5/10 at 9:50pm

Good catch advisory88... this kid's original username was hahaha or some stupid sht... all he does is pumping up / feeling insecure about his summer analyst position at Moelis. metalasian is another dude that does the same thing. Just wait a month.. pretty sure I could find out who you are with a phone call.. Stern, Moelis SA, Asian. Got it.

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People hate on shit here

TNA
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 on 5/5/10 at 9:59pm

People hate on shit here because they are 18 year old kids. Honestly, I am sure than the real bad ass Wharton and Harvard kids are no spending their time on WSO bashing stuff. The ivy league kids who come on here bitching and moaning like little girls probably make up the bottom part of their respective schools or have zero personality.

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+1 Anthony. I have friends

Advisory88
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(Orangutan, 298
 
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 on 5/5/10 at 10:42pm

+1 Anthony. I have friends who work there and I can tell you it's a quality shop. But please do realize it would also be very easy for me or other people to point them to your stupid posts here. Going through your post history, it is easy to determine that you are not a born American citizen (don't want to out you, so I'll leave it at that). I don't want to get too far wit this, but I can make one call and figure out who you are in the next 10 minutes-- if I want to. Not to mention that the consequences could be bad for you. I am not going to do that because I am not a complete asshole. Keep a low profile and stop worrying about what sophomores on this site think.

To all prospective interns- You guys are easily replaceable, so unless you have that FT offer, keep your head down. If people know who you are and can trace history on here, I don't see it helping you get that FT offer. People get dinged for minor infractions all the time.

Not trying to be rude, but an insecure bitch like you doesn't belong at any firm on the Street. I am sorry for my tone, but you really do come across as a pussy.

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The fact of the matter is,

bunkerbanker
      IB
 
(Baboon, 125
 
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 on 5/5/10 at 11:36pm

The fact of the matter is, Moelis isn't as amazing as some people on the board make them ought to be. Probably not as established as a Greenhill / Evercore or even Perella / Centerview / Allen & Co. / Rothschild for M&A as they lack blue chip clients. At the same time, it is a quality shop that has had tremendous PE placement and restructuring deal flow and is expanding aggressively into the ECM game (co-managing several deals right now). Yes M&A is lacking but they still have time to fix that.

However, how good Moelis is for YOU depends on YOUR own experience. If you don't like it, having Moelis on your resume will definitely help you during full time recruiting because it is a respected place. A dumb piece of sht from Moelis LA who could barely count numbers got an offer at a top BB (GS/MS). So be happy that you got the fuking offer, work your ass off over the summer, make people like you, get a return offer, shop that sht around if you didn't like your experience, and you'll be well on your way to rich and success. Quit posting stupid sht on this forum and changing your username to try to stay anonymous.

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People really need to learn a

TNA
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 on 5/6/10 at 1:14am

People really need to learn a magical word -- it's called appreciation. I read so many posts with people bashing this, trying to make whatever they are doing sound like it's the best in the world, feeling so insecure, etc. Makes me sick. Moelis is a fine shop and a great name, be glad you are not working ops or something. You have to take whatever you get and make it work, life is inherently unfair. Stop pissing and moaning about it and get aggressive.

I said to a friend once how if I ran a school I would have no OCR. My reason being is it is the difference between being fed and going out and killing you're meal. I really wonder how bad ass all the Harvard and Wharton people would be if they didn't have every shop under the sun hitting them up. Just saying there is really something to be said about being aggressive, fighting for something.

One side note/rant. Every time I hear this crap about how a non target kid is assumed to be less than a HWS kid makes me want to throw up. As if accounting 101 at whatever target is magically better or something. Actually being better and being perceived as being better are two VERY different things. I really think a lot of people need to stop drinking the kool aid and shut their mouths and open their ears.

Frankly, my time on this site has changed my opinion on "target" kids in general and the whole banking industry. Not for the better I might add.

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bunkerbanker wrote: The fact

asdf123456
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(Monkey, 41
 
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 on 5/6/10 at 2:43am
bunkerbanker:

The fact of the matter is, Moelis isn't as amazing as some people on the board make them ought to be. Probably not as established as a Greenhill / Evercore or even Perella / Centerview / Allen & Co. / Rothschild for M&A as they lack blue chip clients. At the same time, it is a quality shop that has had tremendous PE placement and restructuring deal flow and is expanding aggressively into the ECM game (co-managing several deals right now). Yes M&A is lacking but they still have time to fix that.

I know the last UBS LA class had phenomenal PE placement, but how has placement been for the analyst classes since Moelis was formed?

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asdf123456

2226416
      IB
 
(Senior Orangutan, 390
 
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 on 5/6/10 at 4:15am
asdf123456:
bunkerbanker:

The fact of the matter is, Moelis isn't as amazing as some people on the board make them ought to be. Probably not as established as a Greenhill / Evercore or even Perella / Centerview / Allen & Co. / Rothschild for M&A as they lack blue chip clients. At the same time, it is a quality shop that has had tremendous PE placement and restructuring deal flow and is expanding aggressively into the ECM game (co-managing several deals right now). Yes M&A is lacking but they still have time to fix that.

I know the last UBS LA class had phenomenal PE placement, but how has placement been for the analyst classes since Moelis was formed?

Apparently BX took a sizeable portion from the 2008(?) class.

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asdf123456

thaTHRILLA
      IB
 
 
(Orangutan, 256
 
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 on 5/7/10 at 12:09pm
asdf123456:
bunkerbanker:

The fact of the matter is, Moelis isn't as amazing as some people on the board make them ought to be. Probably not as established as a Greenhill / Evercore or even Perella / Centerview / Allen & Co. / Rothschild for M&A as they lack blue chip clients. At the same time, it is a quality shop that has had tremendous PE placement and restructuring deal flow and is expanding aggressively into the ECM game (co-managing several deals right now). Yes M&A is lacking but they still have time to fix that.

I know the last UBS LA class had phenomenal PE placement, but how has placement been for the analyst classes since Moelis was formed?

can you expand on the PE placement of UBS LA? i never saw the breakdown...

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bunkerbanker wrote: Good

metalasian
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 on 5/7/10 at 12:31pm
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