Your beautification routine
Alright, so I was re-watching American Psycho the other day and laughing to myself at how vain the opening sequence was with Bateman going through his daily beautification routine. However, it had me thinking about the importance of appearance in the financial services industry, as well as the toll the long hours, diet, etc at the analyst level must take on that appearance (especially skin).
That being said, is there any sort of Bateman-esque daily cosmetic routine you guys go through outside of the typical shower/shave?
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Esquire has some great grooming tips for men.
User @labanker advises to keep it simple:
If you shave every day you don't really need to worry about exfoliation. Think about it, you are scraping your face and neck with a razor. Seems like that would do a pretty good job removing dead skin. If you are worried about your forehead, scrape it with your washcloth or loofah every once in a while.If you want to have good skin and look good, drink a lot of water, eat clean, use a basic lotion and take it easy on the hair gel/wax.
Shave frequency depends a lot on how your facial hair grows in. If it doesn’t come in scruffy, you can probably get away with only shaving every couple days but remember, you want to look tidy and professional so use your common sense.
Spending a ton of time on moisturizer and products won't matter if you’re not taking care of your overall well-being so be sure to get enough sleep (when possible), eat well, drink LOTS of water, and exercise regularly. If it sounds basic, it’s because it is. And it works.
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I shave with a double-edged safety razor, which is far superior to cartridges in every way. Brush teeth, use mouthwash, use shampoo. Buzz my hair every few weeks.
I had some acne on my forehead when I was younger. Took Accutane for a few months and I look fucking beautiful now.
Side question:
Is it acceptable to have a 1-2 day growth of facial hair? Mine grows really neatly and evenly. And I hate shaving more often than every other day. I look good with a few days of facial hair, and if everything else is put-together, is it fine? For a business casual environment? For suit-and-tie status?
...also interested
To my mind, beautification can not be a routine at all. The thing is that a lot of people today are ready to use the professional organic cosmetics like https://www.alyaka.com/brands/s-ip/ and to enjoy the process. Otherwise they do not start to work in the beauty industry. And I am happy to be the part of them with such quality means for work.
i didn't shave at all last week
In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
You like Huey Lewis and the News?
Good question. What I'd also like to know, is where people in finance buy these beautification/shaving products.
Face routine both day and night:
And you can buy these at any drug store, online, or Amazon.
Do you guys really walk around in sunblock all day and use foams and shit? Or are we still making Bateman references?
Roll out of bed, shower, and shave.
Is this all before or after you return those videotapes?
Post shower: shave using single-blade razor, follow up with exfoliating cream, face moisturizer. This simple combo will make you look fucking spectacular on a daily basis.
Secret cheat code: some chick's products are way, way better than anything on the market for guys. For exfoliating cream, go to the MAC store and buy some shit called "Volcanic Ash."
+1 on the chicks' products. The exfoliator I used to get for men was from Kiehl's, but when I ran out I used some apricot scrub (St. Ives) that my girlfriend left over. Works just as well for a fraction of the price. Do you exfoliate daily? I've heard that's something to avoid, as it dries out your skin in the long run. I do it once or twice max per week.
I haven't heard that before, no. I wind up exfoliating 3-4 times per week lol. I'll tone it down...
damn all your beautiful people...
What's the appeal in trying to look younger for men? I'm looking forward to being a wise-looking wrinkled motherfucker in the future.
I'm gonna be an old man with mad swag and fuck 20-year-olds. And they're gonna be all like, 'Let me lick your wrinkles while you tell me about the world.'
Agreed. The balder and grayer you are, the more respected. Quickest route to VP is to go bald.
Nivea for men sensitive face wash, Kiel's ultra facial cream. I use Kiehl's exfoliating scrub once a week.
Question:I always get cystic breakouts on the sides of my face once in a while, wondering what acne products I should use to prevent them.
Most of the high end exfoliators, toners, moisturizers, and cleansers are a scam. Look at the ingredients. Yes maybe they have some bullshit seaweed way down the list, but the ingredients at the top of the list are always the same as what's in the basic stuff you get at Target. There are only two or three ingredients in existence that clean your skin, and two or three ingredients that moisturize it. The rest is bullshit filler. And if you shave every day you don't really need to worry about exfoliation. Think about it, you are scraping your face and neck with a razor. Seems like that would do a pretty good job removing dead skin. If you are worried about your forehead, scrape it with your washcloth or loofah every once in awhile. Done.
If you want to have good skin and look good, drink a lot of water, eat clean, use a basic lotion like Curel (it's what my doctor told me to use when I was on Accutane back in the day - can get it at Target, CVS, Wal-Mart, etc.) and take it easy on the hair gel / wax. Leave the bullshit fluff products to the chicks.
Re: shaving frequency, I've found that 1 day's growth is generally ok (i.e. shave every other day). Beyond that you start to look scruffy.
get some 10% glycolic acid and moisturizer
Hey let me ask you something. What's the difference between women's skin and men's skin? Let me tell you: nothing. Skin is skin. Don't believe in the companies that tell you there's a difference, and push people to buy gender specific products.
There's really no difference. Use whatever the hell you want.
That is true, however you might want to use different skin products for different areas of your face. And everyone has different skin, the trick is to know what works for you.
“Male skin is, on average, approximately 20% thicker than female skin. It contains more collagen and has a tighter, firmer appearance.”
”male skin – on both the face and the body - is thicker, oilier and ages differently.”
https://int.eucerin.com/about-skin/basic-skin-knowledge/male-and-female…
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just looked into these chemical peels. what kind of moisturizer should i use? is ultra facial cream from kiehl's sufficient?
No need, this is me when I wake up:
Your shower looks a little cramped bro. How you have sex in there?
All you clowns are forgetting the most important thing, which is to drink a lot of water, which makes your skin radiate.
Exactly. I chug liquids day and night to hydrate.
If you have acne, anything with salicylic acid will work wonders. It doesn't have to be name brand. It's all the same active ingredient. However, it is drying on some skins, and I would recommend a face lotion with alpha-hydroxy acids (it also works on getting rid of acne) and some SPF. Neutrogena has a great one called 'Healthy Skin Face Lotion'. It's super light as well so no one can tell you even have it on, but it does amazing stuff.
If your acne is worse, Murad has a great set of products that will help with acne. I would buy the SET though, which includes lotion, face cleanser and some spot touch up thing.
Also, I would suggest going to Sephora and speaking with a beautician there about your skin and what products they recommend. It's FREE and you don't have to buy anything, but they will guide you in the right direction. And yes, guys go there all the time to buy cologne so don't worry about it.
Sounds like you've been on the Proactiv
Evidence for the pussification of America can be found here.
Oh, get over your manlihood and masculinity already. There's nothing wrong with taking care of your body.
And this is an example of where bullies come from kiddies. And I don't care how "Senior" you are. You're condescending tone and degrading colloquialism make you less of "man" than all the girls on this forum put together. Grow up.
You're absolutely right. Insecure pussies in America are in abundance
Haha, while I'm reluctant to disagree with you, I'm going to go with the excuse that personal grooming is important and that sharing tips shouldn't be held in such contempt.
Fact is that if you look relaxed / healthy it's much easier to convince other people that you know your shit, especially in cases where neither they nor you know what you're talking about, which is most of the time in finance. A 'yes' expressed with confidence is much better liked than a 'considering all the facts there is a 58.4% chance this is right', especially among some of the older douchier guys I have worked for so far. Tough world but that is why I shave every day and generally try to look like I work in the State Dept. rather than rocking up at work in destroyed jeans, which is what I could.
lol working at the state dept.
People still go for government jobs? Is that still a thing that people do?
Yea ikr - only exit opps i know are PE, HF, or VC
Take a shower in temperate water (hot water dries the scalp out)
Shave with a straight razor (cleanest shave you'll ever get) using coconut butter cream lather shaving cream. I sometimes use the Vanilla Bourbon cream when I'm looking for a more sophisticated smell. After the straight razor shave my skin is as smooth as glass. Sometimes people ask if I ever need to shave since there is no shadow after I shave.
Wash my face with cold water(it closes the pores) and use a 1% alcohol after shave on a bi-daily basis. Too much alcohol will dry the skin out.
I use a very small amount of Nivea cream on my face to moisturize it after I rinse off from my shave. Nivea is somewhat oily so I don’t over do it.
I use my electric shaver side burn attachment to shape up my hairline and clean up the hair around my ears.
Complete my look by using a small amount of Aquaphor Vaseline oil on my lips as balm. I also put a small amount on the tip of my dick. It looks like I’m glowing after that, my lips have a very supple and tender look to them after that, people often comment on it.
I try not to use too much cologne, you don’t want to mix too many smells together between your shampoo, after shave, shaving cream, body wash, and lotion. So when I do use cologne I use a very small amount on my wrist and rub it on my neck, this way you can only really smell it if you are less than 12in from my face. If someone walks by and you can smell their perfume/cologne, they have too much.
I also purchase slim fit shirts, and tailor my pants. It’s a lot cheaper than you think and it makes you look worth way more than you actually are. Sometimes, I’ll even buy a shirt from Ross, but get it tailored, and then a $20 shirt looks like a $90 one and people always ask where I do my shopping.
I try to work out at least 3 times a week for 45 minutes each session. Low resistance training and cardio mainly, gives me the slim but toned look.
Whole process takes only 20minutes btw.
Take notes kiddies.
your username leads me to believe u'r obv lyin
good adv1ce tho, would recommend esopecially the tailored stuff part
lol wtf....
I'll second/SB this. Jesus H. Christ.
I roll out of bed, brush my teeth, take a dump, shower, shave (not daily though), style my hair, jump in my suit and off to work I go.
In case that I got into bed earlier, I'm squeezing in a short run before showering.
I sometimes use hair wax, but curse at the cystic acne that develops after working out. Helmet hair genetics of peace.
bro acne dot org is the best i used their products for a month, lost all acne - only prob is that it's 50-60 a pop, but i dun care since no acne :)
I also lol'd. If he's a troll, he's one of the more successful ones (if not a bit creative and honest).
seriously what's up with all these foams and creams and shot you guys use,
Before I go to sleep every night - L'Occitane Brightening face wash, Light benzoyl peroxide cream (I also always wash my hair out no matter how fucked up/tired I am, super critical to get the product out of your hair) Morning - L'Occitane Brightening face wash, L'Occitane Brightening moisturizer Shaving - Three blade razor (skin is to sensitive for straight blades), eucalyptus shave cream, follow with L'Occitane serum
L'Occitane brand ambassador rite here lol
Fuck that shit, I want to look like I'm 25 for the rest of my life.
not if you keep drinking like you advertise in threads :)
$27 for FACE WASH? Is it made with gold dust? Does it have little fairies that tickle your balls? I don't even want to know how much you spend on the serum....
Jeremiah Johnson never would've stood for this shit.
Pro tip: Powder your balls. Women appreciate it.
by women u mean men - and by men u mean your bf - and by your bf you mean sugar daddy who puts u thru uni - amirite?
in all srsness wut kind of powder? cocaine "powder" or sugar powder??
baking powder nub
No routine. Sun, excercise, enough water and proper nutrition are what you´ll need for good skin.
I prefer popping vitamin, mineral, and herbal pills to cure most aliments.
What the actual fuck?
I actually just got all the products from the movie and follow that routine
If you need product to "glow" then you aren't getting laid enough
Obviously you need to look nice, but man-up.
Grow a beard and keep two cigars and a flask of whiskey in your jacket pocket.
For some people too much is not enough.
Why care when you ca wake up sexy:
HOW ABOUT JUST FUCKING SOAP AND FUCKING WATER
The only other thing I do is put on moisturizing cream after shaving (my skin gets extremely dry if I don't do that) and I use paste for my hair.
Google this: "Chanel No 22 raises T levels in men; Axe has same effect on women"
Just don't use too much because...
Lets just hope that the women in the study saw their SBHG increase, because if they didn't we would expect them to sprout mustaches with T level similar to what the men in the control group had.
Phaggot. Don't bring those expressions here.
Wow!
i am definitely in the metrosexual camp on this one...keeping yourself in decent shape and looking decent are important if for nothing else then for getting quality women. A couple of things:
1) I have found steam to be very good for the skin...i recently joined a club that has a good steam room and I try to use it daily. It is also very relaxing. 2) We all know that you have to exercise, but I think few people realize that exercising too much can actually be bad for the skin. I have pretty fair skin and when I used to be crazy about squash I would often have alot of skin redness because i was doing over an hour of hard cardio everyday...too much sweat irritates the skin. This may not be the case for darker skin types but for me it was big. Now I try to exercise for the purpose of looking decent and I dont overdue it...it also is nice not to constantly have minor injuries.
3) Diet is the most important thing for skin and for looking good generally as you age...much more important then exercise. I love to drink and that isnt going to change, which is a problem, but I avoid processed carbohydrates, bread, and pasta. Basically keep the diet to protien and fruit/vegetables. Also I try to stick to Vodka when i drink...lowest calorie to drunkedness ratio I think. Basically my diet consists of meat (preferably fish or chicken), vegetables, and booze only...and also take a fish oil/omega 3 supplement. Be careful with my diet advice tho as you will have to get used to drinking on low carbs...it can cause seriously ugly behavior....it is not for amatuers so ease into it. 4) This will probably be something that most on this board disagree with, but I think that having long hair is a huge plus for guys. When I was in my early 20s I had short hair mainly because I was in junior level jobs where longer hair would be frowned upon...as I got in my mid-late 20s i grew it out...the difference in terms of how women respond to me was like flicking a light switch. Looking boring is kryptonite for women so dont be the guy with the military cut wearing a tucked in button-down with khakis....no stylish girl (and most hot girls are into this stuff) wants to be seen with "that guy". Also as an added bonus looking a bit different has helped me professionally, not hurt me...for every older conservative person that is turned off by it there are many who see it as a plus...either because they assume i have some "mad genius"-type qualities or because they assume I am kind of a player in my social life and they like to talk to me as a brief respite from their boring/normal lives.
^ The Russell Brand effect. People who are unique and confident about what makes them so can come off as very attractive regardless of their appearance.
You are probably having an epic...hangover, lol. Remind me your earlier statement that only c.30% female have experienced orgasm (or somethin' similar). I am not against long hair - it's sexy and somehow vulnerable. But I think it works best with tattoos and abs. Oh wait, you are in high finance... never mind.
PS: No stylish girl could resist Tom Ford-ish cut, my $.02.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction
who said i dont have tattoos and abs also? Tom Ford has a good look but I think his scruff and his clothes make him look good as opposed to his hair. Take away those things and he looks like Dave Mathews. (cue comments saying im being gay by evaluating a guys looks). Do you have any examples of guys whose tattoos you like? Im always interested in what types of tatts girls think are hot...
Am I the only one that thinks that this guy is a pussy?
As I said above- Grow a beard, keep two cigars and a flask of whiskey in your jacket pocket.
Light a cigar, pour some whiskey into a glass and brush the ashes from your beard; no one is going to give a shit what product you use on your face or hair.
^^^i do often sport a beard and I like whiskey alot...dont really see what that has to do with anything. If sitting around smoking cigars with a bunch of other guys is what you consider masculine then yes count me as a pussy b/c to me that seems very boring and a tremendous waste of time.
I see what you did there - clever, except this monologue is the whole premise of the thread.
This is the sort of topic where secure people will give genuine answers, and the insecure will bash it only to later google the various tricks to looking good.
For the couple people with cystic acne: Tazorac will be your best friend (prescription only). It's a topical treatment with similar effects to that of accutane.
For daily suaveness, diet is quintessential. It's. tough task, so taking a multivitamin is necessary. I reccomendations Raw Men's One. Drink a fuckload of water as well.
Also, make sure to turn your shower to cold after shaving/washing your face. Closes your pores, as has been said. Use Ceraphil for face moisturizer everyday.
These techniques I leaned from Pharell (is 40, looks 25), who in turn learned them from Naomi Campbell.
I usually just use a neutrogena moisturizer after I shave. I'm hoping it will keep the wrinkles at bay after 20 years of continuous use
Wow it seems that you are nothing like your WSO avatar.
Haha it really depends on the individuals... but in terms of making the right effort, here are some general tips: 1. No cartoon or foreign letter tattoos, unless you target high-school chicks; 2. Put the tatts in places exhibiting masculinity, your chest, arms, back, lower abs perhaps; 3. the tatts may reveal something contrary to your appearance. This is the secret sauce because it adds depth to your character and shows your 'soft side'. One trader I know puts his grandmom's name on his chest, guess what, the tatt is an instant panty wetter.. You are welcome.
not shure where u get dat form since u r a guy ... unless u wear panties? -_-
Shave the night before (just bought a safety razor which will save me $$$ in razor blades over the years). In the morning, roll out of bed, shower, comb and throw gel in my hair, take vitamins, eat a solid breakfast, brush teeth, mouthwash, get dressed and I'm out the door.
I try to eat semi-healthy during the week, Friday night-Sunday night I eat/drink whatever I want. I'm told a balanced diet is important:
this. what's the point of all this shit on your face? impress chicks? dudes? yourself?
if you need volcanic ash exfoliating cream to get laid you are doing it very wrong.
it's a known fact that staffers give the person w/ most acne the least work cuz n oone wants to look @ ur face - sumthing 2 consider
i do not really get this whole attitude...i can understand not caring about what you wear or how you look, to each his own, I just never understood why so many guys are offended by the notion of it. If you think its gay or that im a pussy then introduce me to your girlfriend and i will do lots of very gay things to her....
Why do you write like this?
there's a fine line between taking care of yourself and spending hundreds on beauty products. half of these responses sound they came from the American Psycho script.
and i don't thinks its gay, just vain and trivial
If you define your sexuality by your grooming habits you have more to worry about than "looking" manly or whatever.
Heard this multiple times, but what on earth makes you think i am a dude?
OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH Good one!!!!!! ..
^ Hahaha. Bondarb, you're the man! :D
Also, what the fuck is wrong with being gay?! Some posters here really need to be dragged out of the 19th century. -__-
Good lord, who gives a shit if somebody's favorite face wash is called "volcanic ash". Appearances are important, and there's nothing wrong with trying to maintain them. And this thread isn't meant to be an assertion of masculinity. If others' daily routines are too feminine or "gay" for you, go back to your manly-ass routine of shaving with a bowie knife and exfoliating with a sand belt.
I like it. The only thing that counts is the score.
what's wrong w/ ppl thinkin u r a dude ??
No, you are not.
Yeah, I've heard the same thing but about people who has a tattoo of his dog on the leg. It is called good taste.
I don't care what you put on your face, as stated before I shave with Jim Beam. However, the point is that it's an indication of personality and character. When you spend lots of money on multiple face creams or whatever, it reminds the majority of men of their wives/gfs. Some of were raised like boys and we're used to that, and apparently some of us were raised to put on their face in the morning. I dunno, maybe they grew up with sisters on the upper east side instead of with brothers in Kentucky.
Gold bond body powder. Seriously, get a bottle of it and you'll NEVER go back. Nice and cool balls, all day long. Careful though, the foot powder is much more potent than the body powder so get the right one.
This is my favorite response to this question, it comes from "pacmane" on the bodybuilding dot com forum: "I have a ritual called ‘terminator’. I crouch in the shower in the “naked terminator” pose. With eyes closed I crouch for a minute and visualize either Arnie or the guy from the 2nd movie. I then start to hum the T2 theme. Slowly I rise to a standing position and open my eyes. It helps me get through my day. The only problem is if the shower curtain sticks to my terminator leg. It sorta ruins the fantasy."
Thanks for reminding me. After reading this I remembered how good this stuff is. It really gives my skin a nice shine. I only use the noncomedogenic and hypoallergenic kind because I do not want acne or hives.
The question is not if but rather how often. As I eluded to earlier the score is what matters. Thus it is better to do 2 at a time. This takes dedication to be able to pull off.
i dont understand the leap made from "i like XYZ facial product" to the response of "You need XYZ facial product to get laid, you pussy!". Anyone who uses soap, deodorant, or is combing their hair is engaging in a form of vanity and its mostly to impress the opposite sex, so it seems strange tp be so judgmental about this stuff.
Due to the lack of female voices on this topic, here's a contribution: the best cosmetic routine I've ever found is working out - hard. I train like a machine (no pilates, no yoga - what the hell is that anyway?) - 2 hours a day at the gym, 6-7 days a week. I have 2 gyms - Equinox, which is my core gym, and then a membership at Gold's since the latter has longer hours. I have a trainer (last year I paid Equinox $20k for my trainer alone) and I run intervals for either 30 or 60 minutes each day, combined with either a training session or another 30-45 minutes on free weights or cardio machines. There are days I don't make it out of the gym before midnight, but that's life. I don't think creams and gels are anything except a waste of time and money. I think I've got the formula right. I am 38, and there is no sign of aging on my body or face. I have perfect muscle tone, just the right amount of fat, and (this being LA), I've dated every category of "important" guy in this town (a famous R&B singer, an A-list producer, a top entertainment lawyer, the usual list of CEOs) and young boys (in the 20-28 year range) try to pick me up all the time - usually when I'm in my workout gear, coming from the gym with no makeup on. I should disclose that I'm now in corp dev as head of M&A for a large firm, so my schedule is better than in banking (but not by much, to be honest). I was previously at one of the upper bulge brackets in NY until the bust of 2009, then went west to LA.
This is amazing. I spend a lot on skincare but don't workout much (except swimming and dancing). Do you follow any special diets?
Yes, I do. I watch everything I eat, religiously. People think that if you work out, you can eat with abandon but it's just not true. The secret to being Hollywood-thin (for lack of a better term) is to work out for real and then watch everything you eat. I have a fair amount of muscle (I'm female so I don't look muscular unless you really know what to look for; think Demi Moore back when she did that famous naked picture), and I estimate that when I eat 1,600 – 1,800 calories a day I am at parity (i.e., not gaining or losing, assuming I am sedentary for that day); I can even push that number to 2,000. You’ll want to take note that most women think they are eating 2,000 calories a day to stay at the same size but this is usually NOT correct. It only applies to me because I have a lot of muscle and muscle is constantly hungry; it needs to be fed. I usually burn 500 – 750 calories each day at the gym. I have a Fitbit, which helps me monitor my sleeping and my activity, and when I work out I have a heart rate monitor, which tells me exactly what I’m burning. As for diet, I would say that it’s a science (not art); looking at my diet, you’ll see a lot of egg whites, avocado, raw kale, sashimi, organic soy. I make sure I eat carbs – they’re important to your health, but in moderation. I eat very little wheat/gluten products and never white sugar. The key to looking fantastic is to treat your health and your diet the way you’d treat a merger model – with clarity, neatness and precision. Every point counts. Bring the same intellectual rigor you have as a banker to maintaining your body. It’s the hardest thing to figure out, after your career. And it is just as important. If anyone else has specific questions I'll try to comment.
Workout, eat clean..
This is completely accurate! The only time I was able to eat whatever I wanted was when I was training for ultra-marathons (running 50+ miles a week) or triathlons. I will admit that I am 10 years younger and male with an already high metabolism, so that factors in a little. Additionally, I don't use the fancy equipment she listed or have a personal trainer. However, I maintained a healthy diet, not to the extreme as supergirl, but overall what most Americans would consider rabbit food. If you workout hard your body is not going to want McDonald's, it is going to want healthy food so it can repair itself. Workout and listen to your body, the rest will take care of itself.
disclaimer - doin above is harder than it sounds cuz u r lazy/have no self ctrl
I don't get why all the guys are so afraid of looking older. Guys get distinguished, chicks get beat.
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