Angry Boss

Another dreadful day, loads of requests flying in, the bosses going mad and people keep yelling around for no apparent reason (its still the end of the summer, there should not be this type of disruption yet).

After getting some price issues sorted out and trying to understand one of the factset templates I just received from some associate my phone keeps ringing and I decide to apply a no answering policy for the next 10 minutes (not good if you work in this environment).

My boss eventually walks over to the desk trying to figure out what the hell is going on and after I tell him I am deciphering the associates work and cant get it done any faster he runs over to the poor guys desk and yells at him for sending me a template I dont understand how to use. Then he returns and yells at me for not building my own template. 15 minutes later when I answer the phone he yells at me for the fact that the folder are saved the wrong way (been done waaay before I joined the place like that...go figure). This just keeps going the whole day and the only end in sight is in the evening when the the guy takes off...he actually then comes over and tells me I am doing a great job, I am hungry and the usual bla bla..

I dont think I am bothered too much by all the yelling etc. but I have seen this happening to others and quite often hear much worse stories from other places. I am just generally wondering how to best handle a boss like that without going awol on him, starting to get aggrevated or hate my work (which most of us do already anyways, but whatever).

Any quick suggestions more than welcome, how have you delt with your hot headed boss before?

Have a good weekend

 

Just ignore him. Dont deal w/ bullies. Different strokes for different folks but I think thats the best way to deal w it.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

the great thing about getting more senior is your push-back prerogative level rises exponentially. there is no greater feeling than telling the VP to fuck off in front of the entire team and knowing that they cannot shitcan you because no one else understands the fucking models.

 

When I read this...

melvvvar:
the great thing about getting more senior is your push-back prerogative level rises exponentially. there is no greater feeling than telling the VP to fuck off in front of the entire team
I thought you were going to finish with...
melvvvar:
and knowing that they cannot do anything because they are three levels below you.
 
SirTradesaLot:
When I read this...
melvvvar:
the great thing about getting more senior is your push-back prerogative level rises exponentially. there is no greater feeling than telling the VP to fuck off in front of the entire team
I thought you were going to finish with...
melvvvar:
and knowing that they cannot do anything because they are three levels below you.

that would make life easier

 

This reminds me of me and my dad... him in a bad mood is not a rare occurrence, so I've eventually just learned to deal with it. A lot of my friends get scared of him or angry at him when he's in a bad mood, but they just need to realize that a "clean your dishes you lazy fuck" from my dad on a bad day is the same as "hi". This makes my dad sound worse than he is, he's a great dad, but yeah, it's just something I've learned to deal with. At least your boss told you why he was acting like a tool.

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Suck it up. He actually came up to you and said you're doing a good job. In his own way that's his way of saying sorry, be happy you at least get that. He can't be too bad of a guy if he's willing to do something to show he was in the wrong, even if he doesn't flat out say it.

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Saul_Villa:
Suck it up. He actually came up to you and said you're doing a good job. In his own way that's his way of saying sorry, be happy you at least get that. He can't be too bad of a guy if he's willing to do something to show he was in the wrong, even if he doesn't flat out say it.

Wow you're naive. That's him keeping him on the hook, like the crack dealer who'll cut you a freebee because "you're a good customer". He doesn't care, he's just making sure you'll bust your ass again tomorrow, because you think he likes you.

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Oreos:
Saul_Villa:
Suck it up. He actually came up to you and said you're doing a good job. In his own way that's his way of saying sorry, be happy you at least get that. He can't be too bad of a guy if he's willing to do something to show he was in the wrong, even if he doesn't flat out say it.

Wow you're naive. That's him keeping him on the hook, like the crack dealer who'll cut you a freebee because "you're a good customer". He doesn't care, he's just making sure you'll bust your ass again tomorrow, because you think he likes you.

Seriously. Do you make excuses for everyone else that treats you like shit most of the time but throws a bone your way?

If you are junior then there is not much you can do but take it and plan to move on out of there ASAP. It sucks to deal with even at a senior level because half your time is spent fighting and not letting them shit on you... avoiding them is the last thing you want to do though. Much better to figure out a way to communicate with them and be in their face. They will (at the very least subconsciously) respect you more. Most of these bullies are actually complete pansies and are just used to not having anyone say anything back to them or challenge them.

 

I hear you man.. about 2 weeks ago my boss got off the phone with me about a problem which began long before I joined. I made this clear to him, with a bit of attitude I guess, and he flung his phone off his desk into the wall, straight Ari Gold style. Then I hear him down the hall bitching how IT can't get him a new phone fast enough.

These kinds of guys are just expediting their own funerals...

 

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