Older associate moved to my office, stealing my job
This thread isn't to whine, but I'm just curious if anybody has had this happen. And the thread title is misleading, because my job security is fine and my pay is unaffected.
I was hired to work on modeling and other interesting stuff. That's why I took this job. An older, more seasoned associate who's very respected across the company moved from a bigger office to mine (regional) and, basically, took over all that interesting stuff. We aren't a super-high-dealflow place to begin with, so there's only so much exciting work to go around. I won't go into detail, but the work that I'm left with (which still needs to be done, and I'm not saying it's BO stuff, but ... ) is NOT as sexy as what i was hired for.
Has anybody experienced this, and what did you do? If you wanted to jump ship, would you tell the potential employer the problem, or would you be afraid that they'd perceive you as not "good enough to keep those responsibilities"?
I don't want to say which industry/product type/sector I work in, but it doesn't really matter which product type I cover.
i think you have a golden chance to build a relationship with someone who is more experienced. i would be learning from them and become best friends quickly, and then maybe you could work on things together etc.
But yeah, not a bad idea. I'll work on it.
To answer FormerHornetDriver, I'm a 1st year analyst. Very bottom of the totem pole, very junior, and new to this product type. Definitely not on the new guy's level.
+1
Are you an analyst or junior associate?
If he's the golden standard, then there are obviously multiple habits / skills he has that set him apart. Definitely get closer to him and make sure to observe what differentiates him from the group and makes him successful. You shouldn't try to BE him, but pick up his work habits or maybe some of his communication techniques.
I'm going through a similar thing right now in an FLDP. My boss is basically where I would be in a year or two, and he is the golden standard around here. He's not necessarily taking work away from me, but most of the time people would rather go through him than me because he has much more experience / analytics capability right now. I've been making sure to study some of his habits/mannerisms/thought processes that I think differentiate him from the run of the mill analyst/accountant. Also, most of the time these guys are more than willing to teach you or help you through a difficult concept.
Over the several months since I've been here, we've spent a ton of time together building models and talking through more difficult concepts. Now that he is transferring in a few weeks, I'm looking forward to taking some of the reins back and proving myself without being able to lean on him. If I hadn't taken so much time to learn from him, I would be A LOT more stressed out about him leaving.
Note: I'm pretty sure I'll be working every weekend until the end of my rotation now.
Learn from him.
bottom line: good chance to learn.
Shank this fool.
Although if you can get away with it, this may be a quicker path to advancement.
Good advice on learning from him in the posts above. Another thing is that although it seems like you are doing work that is not as sexy, do it the best you can if it helps this guy get his shit done more efficiently. If he is as seasoned and good at his job as you say, then I doubt he will want to handle modeling forever. The guys that make real money dont model, they bring in and manage the deals that get modeled. So if he is already experienced enough to take on that much responsibility, he could be looking to move out of that role soon. The easier you can make his life now, doing what seems to be more trivial work, the sooner he will trust you and start to pass on the more important tasks so he can advance himself as well.
Best bet is to blend in & gell with your senior colleague and excel at your responsibilities. As you gain experience & earn the confidence of your superiors, you should be getting another crack at the modelling. Do not rock the boat (for now)...
Learn and shadow him. If he's such a rockstar he'll get promoted right as you are getting up to speed. Also, huge value in having someone to cover your ass on the live/high stress stuff (not to mention hours will get better).
am i the only one that is alarmed by this? passive aggressive move by the employer, maybe?? taking interesting work away from an employee is akin to saying f' you find another job i'm too lazy to actually fire you.
Eh, it could be an unintended consequence of something bigger. Maybe this guy is being groomed to step up and be a bigger part of this regional office and just has to bide his time, maybe he moved for location purposes, etc. Plus, why would this other office give up one of their most respected guys just because another group needs someone to do their modeling? Not a likely scenario.
Cruncharoo, though, is probably on the right track. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. John moved across the country and leased a place here. And I think he has a serious girlfriend in that other city. I've seen John go out and visit a potential HUGE client with the partner who runs this office. We have one other associate here and she did not go along, even though i can't think of a reason for her not to. So maybe he's being groomed.
REF up his models.
Make a move.
Welcome to the layer cake, son.
Bortz you disappoint me, man. Be hungry. Fuck shit up.
Question is: Do I tell the interviewer about this crap that happened? Or would that seem like badmouthing my boss? Would it sound like he "took over my job" because I wasn't capable? Would it just sound fishy overall?
Or, do I sugarcoat it and not even mention any of that bad stuff? I could just as easily say, "I know I'd be leaving after what seems like a short time, but you're offering me a chance to radically change my career path while I'm still young" (there is actually some truth to this)
I would not bad mouth or talk about how you have been marginalized in any way. If the career path switch seems like a good enough reason then I wouldn't deviate from that at all, they won't even second guess it.
The latter. Talk positively about the opportunity you're going into, not negatively about your current role. It can come off as bitter or a red flag that there's something wrong with your attitude or willingness to hack it when things are tough. In a worse case scenario, they'll assume you're getting forced out or they're getting some firm's throwaway.
Say something like your current role has allowed you to build XYZ skill set which will enable you to hit the floor running at NewCo. But in addition to building on such skills, your job at NewCo opens up opportunities that weren't available at XYZ such as ______ and ______ and that ties in with your career goals/desire to be more well rounded.
I just made up a hypothetical example buy you get the idea. There's a way of saying that the new role is even better for you without dumping on your old job.
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