Consulting VS IB Differences
Recently finished up an IB internship at a top BB, and fortunate to have an MBB offer.
Looking for some advice on whether I should take it based on the personal pros/cons of my IB internship.
What I liked about IB:
- Senior level activities (client relationship, thinking strategically etc)
- Driven colleagues
- Fast paced moments (although downtime was boring)
Things I disliked:
- Horrendous hours (zero time for working out / having a personality that isn’t work / sleeping 7 hours)
- Ridiculous amount of bullshit work (making notes, aligning slides 6 times when format could have just been identified early etc)
- No real skill development as a junior (getting good at powerpoint/excel isn’t a skill in my opinion)
Interested in hearing whether these problems are applicable to consulting to a similar degree, in which case I’ll most likely decline the offer and join a startup/quant role instead.
Any advice appreciated :-)
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I would say more of your pros and cons are applicable in some way to MBB consulting too. Driven colleagues for sure, youll have fast paced moments - probably less downtime than banking (imo the hours are more "full" but there are less of them which is good). I think what you outlines in the Senior level activities is more applicable in consulting.
As for cons, MBB hours are kinda bad too but better than banking purely on the fact that youll (most likely) never have weekend work. I think the bullshit work manifests itself differently, I think there will be less of the formatting bullshit that bankers do but there will be other kinda dumb asks. And lastsly, if we are ignoring powerpoint and excel, id say consulting you get a better strategic "how to think" toolkit and probably better client facing skills, whereas banking I suppose youd get more of the pure financial knowledge which is useful if you plan to pursue that down the line.
Either way, IB makes more sense if you see yourself chasing PE or wanting to stay in a finance role, not to say that consulting doesnt keep that open, it does, but is much harder unless you tailor your experience. Both are good for different reasons.
Sounds like you would enjoy consulting.
Your list of likes:
And your list of dislikes:
Echo other poster that you’re a better fit for MBB than IB based on what you wrote
Hours are better, more client interaction esp. at junior levels, can elect to take on more corporate strategy cases
The bullshit work part — depends, MBB has its own. Less Excel / CIM and more PPT pedants (churning on storylines etc) but you’ll outsource a lot of the slide formatting offshore. More work around navigating corporate politics and operations work (eg PMO) depending on project — just as valuable to learn but not for everyone
Exactly — persistence and smart networking are key. Showing your skills through public models or write-ups can help get you noticed, and smaller/mid-sized shops are often more open to non-traditional backgrounds.
You'd like consulting more. I interned in MBB but had BB offers/many close friends at BBs.
The negatives you dislike are better at MBB, though team dependent: no weekend work, almost no "downtime," better hours. Travel can be tiring though. Lots of daily client interaction.
More importantly, your neutrality on finance is telling. IB is better for working in PE, hedge funds, and related areas within finance. Consulting will probably give you better exposure and possibly exits in essentially everything else. Since you're talking about startup/quant, you don't seem to be die-hard set on finance.
MBB really wins in my eyes. Downside is lower pay. The weekends are yours, you can do an externship or transfer to an office abroad for 6 months. You rotate between really intense PE cases and sometimes will have more chill corporate strategy cases. The consultant network is global and people are more social. You have exit options in many corporate, startup and strategy jobs instead of mostly just PE
How is IB not skill-developing?
Excel modeling is absolutely a “hard skill.” Some of these models are like software in terms of their complexity and the amount of creativity required in creating them.
Understanding how business generate revenue, how businesses are valued, what investors care about, and how markets trade are “softer” skills, but skills that you glean through a more quantitative, number-backed angle in IB than elsewhere.
Ideally, you will also learn how to write well, how to come off as socially “with it,” and how to make pretty slides - perhaps not the most intellectual task, but still very much a skill.
There are also the intangibles, skills like working efficiently, defaulting to the “hard, rigorous” way of providing analyses, managing up effectively, and crisis management.
All of this, in your early 20s. That’s valuable.
I’ll concede on your other points, but firmly disagree on IB not being skill-building. This may sound harsh, but that could be more of a problem with a specific team being unwilling to give juniors skill-building exposures than it is inherent to the role.
I cannot think of another role that a 23 year-old can have that is more skill-building in a broad-based sense than IB.
Understand what you are saying about business drivers, but disagree with the rest.
Imo the only worthwhile skills in the future of the workforce is the ability to think (improved by solving difficult problems) and the ability to manage relationships.
I found both these only really come into play as maybe a mid-level associate from those around me (and even then, some associates seemed pitiful with clients - even in a top team).
Things like ‘writing-well’ are pretty standard across any popular entry level role and even then can be learnt quickly.
A couple of notes (I don't work in strategy consulting, which is what I assume you're asking about):
Especially nowadays with outsourcing and maybe AI, knowledge is a bit of a commodity. What really matters and that isn't so easy to cheaply replicate, are the soft skills. I think you'll be fine either way, but just keep that in mind when figuring out what path you want to take.
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