Surprising MBA Study

So this study sheds some light on post-MBA compensation and prestige at the top firms (scroll down for the graphs). Interestingly, it places Booz & Co within a centimeter of MBB in terms of MBA perceptions and hoses Monitor pretty badly which I don't get, (and OW is no where to be found?)

http://www.consultingmag.com/article/ART647748

 

My guess as to why Mckinsey saw such a negative shock is simply that people are coming around to the fact that, while it is part of MBB and some even see it as being in its own tier, it is still way overrated.

Case in point: I'm going to work for one of the Bs and when I tell people they usually have never heard of it. Then I'll say "Have you heard of Mckinsey?" They almost always have and I just say it's like them. Obviously anyone who knows the real deal sees no reason why Mckinsey should be a more ubiquitous name.

 
Best Response
Obviously anyone who knows the real deal sees no reason why Mckinsey should be a more ubiquitous name.
I agree with you 100% that from the perspective of a company that's going to hire consulting firms, M/B/B are all on about the same level on average.

But there are a lot of fairly valid reasons why McKinsey matters more to the average person. They're a lot bigger + have significantly more offices. They've been around a lot longer. And, most importantly, they are by far the leader in doing influential studies on current events/issues (I can't count how many times I've seen the McKinsey climate change cited in the news, and as a current Teach for America member, the McKinsey TFA study is huge).

That's not saying McKinsey is overrated (I think they are - especially among undergrads) - just that they've earned their brand name to some degree.

 

While I sometimes think that McKinsey is over-hyped (I work for a firm that begins with "B"), I don't think that's why their reputation has slipped amongst graduating MBAs. If you look at the sample, the study focuses on students who are going through the recruiting process. Changes in sentiment are therefore heavily influenced by firms' recruiting practices, not just their general perception of being a good place to work.

Firms that let a lot of people go (Monitor), pushed start dates back or don't give as much coddling to applicants (McKinsey) get hurt. Meanwhile, Booz is helped by being divorced from Booz Allen and the fact that nobody has beenpushed back.

 
columbaspexit:
While I sometimes think that McKinsey is over-hyped (I work for a firm that begins with "B"), I don't think that's why their reputation has slipped amongst graduating MBAs. If you look at the sample, the study focuses on students who are going through the recruiting process. Changes in sentiment are therefore heavily influenced by firms' recruiting practices, not just their general perception of being a good place to work.

Firms that let a lot of people go (Monitor), pushed start dates back or don't give as much coddling to applicants (McKinsey) get hurt. Meanwhile, Booz is helped by being divorced from Booz Allen and the fact that nobody has beenpushed back.

I think this is partly true, but then from what I hear, Booz treated their staff terribly during the recession also. Could it be that in the absence of BAH, we see a new, MBBB type market segmentation? There was virtually no differential in perception b/t Booz and the others. Very surprising that if any firm, Monitor didn't move closest to those three, IMO.

 

Voluptatem vel quod et omnis et qui quo. Recusandae ex amet omnis amet sit. Voluptas consequatur iure officiis impedit. Voluptate voluptas amet qui quia debitis deleniti voluptatum.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Consulting

  • Bain & Company 99.4%
  • McKinsey and Co 98.9%
  • Boston Consulting Group (BCG) 98.3%
  • Oliver Wyman 97.7%
  • LEK Consulting 97.2%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Consulting

  • Bain & Company 99.4%
  • Cornerstone Research 98.9%
  • Boston Consulting Group (BCG) 98.3%
  • McKinsey and Co 97.7%
  • Oliver Wyman 97.2%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Consulting

  • Bain & Company 99.4%
  • McKinsey and Co 98.9%
  • Boston Consulting Group (BCG) 98.3%
  • Oliver Wyman 97.7%
  • LEK Consulting 97.2%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Consulting

  • Partner (4) $368
  • Principal (25) $277
  • Director/MD (55) $270
  • Vice President (47) $246
  • Engagement Manager (100) $226
  • Manager (152) $170
  • 2nd Year Associate (158) $140
  • Senior Consultant (331) $130
  • 3rd+ Year Associate (108) $130
  • Consultant (587) $119
  • 1st Year Associate (538) $119
  • NA (15) $119
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (146) $115
  • Engineer (6) $114
  • 2nd Year Analyst (344) $103
  • Associate Consultant (166) $98
  • 1st Year Analyst (1048) $87
  • Intern/Summer Associate (188) $84
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (552) $67
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
6
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
9
bolo up's picture
bolo up
98.8
10
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”