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Hey henryboot, the following topics might be helpful:
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I hope those threads give you a bit more insight.
Thank you.
Unfortunately none has that information. Do you have any idea by chance?
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Currently pricing unitranche somewhere between 625 and 675bps (vanilla PC), might slightly deviate in special scenarios (e.g. recently were asked to reduce arrangment fee from 300 to 200bps but priced at 710bps)
Thank you so much.
What about special situations?
I see vanilla deals can project a 12% IRR return easily.
I compare the returns with other asset classes, e.g. Real Estate, and it would me mad investing in Private Equity Real Estate
From what I know special situations credit has margins of 15%+, but don't quote me.
While you are right that we current see vanilla credit deals with 12% IRR or even higher, this is obviously driven by the very high interest rate environment. 2-3 years ago, things looked very different with lower margins 550-600bps and zero base rate in Europe. At that time target IRRs of 7-7.5% weren't uncommon.
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I expected a decrease in margins to compensate the rise of SONIA/EURIBOR.
What were the average returns of corporate private equity before 2023 and with the current environment?
Kind regards,
Margin is a measure of relative risk to treasuries, absolute return isn’t relatively to the “appropriate” margin unless you’re desperate to deploy
Nope, obviously everything became more instable, and thus more risky. Margins even increased slightly, although most turmoil in the market is rather captured by the rise in the reference interest rates.
Also think from another perspective, bonds etc became more attractive, PC is essentially in the same market just illiquid, and thus needs to achieve a higher return than liquid credit instruments.
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