Mar 13, 2025

Public Credit / PC recruiting from HY Research

Hey all,

I'm an incoming analyst at a BB (think JPM/BofA) where I'm planning to join HY trading desk as a desk research analyst. My goal is to move to the buy side focusing on public credit or private credit. The problem is that unilke IB I haven't offically gotten the desk yet as that's a feature of S&T. I start in July with the expectation of fully starting on the desk around Aug. MY question(s) are 
1. how can I recruit for those roles I mentioned? Is that going to be part of on-cycle?

2. If so, how do I even pull this on-cycle recruting off given that my desk isn't offical? And when does the on-cycle start for these roles? Any resources I can consult?

3. Shoud I reach out to credit headhunters? What are some good credit headhunters?

For background, I'm a non-target from a ShitCo Uni. I need some guidance/mentorship. Thank you veryy much!!

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To break into public or private credit from a HY trading desk, here’s what you need to know based on the most helpful WSO content:

  1. Recruiting for Public/Private Credit Roles:

    • Public and private credit roles often recruit both on-cycle and off-cycle. On-cycle recruiting for these roles typically aligns with the broader private equity recruiting timeline, which can start absurdly early (e.g., a few months after analysts begin their roles). However, for credit-specific roles, the timeline can be more flexible and less rigid than traditional PE recruiting.
    • Off-cycle recruiting is also common in credit, as firms may have rolling needs due to turnover or specific deal flow requirements. This can work to your advantage, especially if you’re not fully settled on your desk yet.
  2. Navigating On-Cycle Recruiting Without an Official Desk:

    • If your desk isn’t official yet, focus on building your knowledge and network. Headhunters are the gatekeepers for most buy-side roles, so establishing relationships with them early is crucial. Even if you’re not officially on the desk, you can still position yourself as a strong candidate by emphasizing your interest in credit and any relevant skills or experiences.
    • Timing-wise, on-cycle recruiting for credit roles can vary, but it’s generally less chaotic than traditional PE recruiting. Be prepared for headhunters to start reaching out as early as October/November after you start, but also keep an eye on off-cycle opportunities.
  3. Reaching Out to Credit Headhunters:

    • Yes, reaching out to credit-focused headhunters is a smart move. They can provide insights into the recruiting timeline and help you identify opportunities that align with your goals. Some well-known headhunters in the credit space include Selby Jennings, Amity Search Partners, and Dynamics Search Partners. Be cautious, though, as some headhunters may prioritize their own commissions over your best interests (as noted in WSO threads).
  4. Additional Resources and Tips:

    • Network aggressively: Coffee chats and informational interviews with professionals in public/private credit can help you understand the landscape and get your name out there.
    • Prepare thoroughly: Be ready to speak to your deals and experiences in detail, even if you’re just starting. Highlight any relevant coursework, internships, or personal projects that demonstrate your interest in credit.
    • Stay informed: Follow WSO threads and forums for updates on recruiting timelines and strategies. The Q&A sections with recruiters and professionals can be particularly insightful.

Given your non-target background, networking and preparation will be even more critical. Use your time before officially starting on the desk to build relationships and position yourself as a strong candidate. Good luck!

Sources: Off Cycle Recruiting Stories, Q&A: I am a Hedge Fund recruiter, Did on cycle just start?, Best Headhunting Shops ?, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/pe-analyst-pe-associate-at-another-firm-is-this-possible?customgpt=1

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I’ve got a couple questions and then some advice.

1.) Did you intern on as a desk analyst at a bank?

2.) Are you located in the US/NYC?

There is no “on-cycle” recruiting for credit hedge funds like there is for PE. Seats tend to be filled as needed and thru headhunters. The giant institutional long only asset managers (Blackrock, PIMCO, PGIM, Wellington, etc..) usually have there own internal talent acquisition/development teams. The typical path would be to spend two or three years as a desk analyst and then make a jump using headhunters/internal biz dev.

For context - I’m a credit analyst at a long/short HY credit fund. Joined the buyside out of undergrad and spent 2 years at one of the above mentioned institutional long only managers and then made the jump to the long/short find.

 

Thank you for your response. 

  1. The internship was rotational, but I didn't get placed on that desk. However, I networked with the team during my internship. I saw a lot of interns from that desk didn't receieve full-time.
  2. Yes, I'm located in NYC.

Curious to know, what the comp/hours are like at your current fund? Are you only doing public HY bonds ? How about Leveraged Loans? And how do people in the desk analyst role fare against people from RX/IB/LevfFin?

Thank you so much!!

 
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