Do MF Asset-Based Finance teams get carry?
Trying to get a read on comp structure for asset-based finance groups at the big platforms (BX/BXCI, Apollo/Athene-adjacent, KKR, Ares, etc.).
A lot of this stuff sits in perpetual or insurance-funded vehicles where the firm's earning an incentive/origination spread rather than classic GP carry with a hurdle. So is there even a carry pool to allocate, or is it cash comp + some "incentive comp" bucket that just tracks NII?
Specifically:
- Do associates on these teams get any carry/profit interest, or does it start higher up?
- Does it depend on whether the strategy is a closed-end ABF fund vs feeding an insurance balance sheet / perpetual vehicle?
- For teams that run flat (associate → principal, no VP), where does the economics actually kick in?
Based on the most helpful WSO content, carry structures in asset-based finance (ABF) teams at megafunds (MFs) like BX, Apollo, KKR, and Ares can vary significantly depending on the type of vehicle and strategy. Here's a breakdown:
Carry in Perpetual or Insurance-Funded Vehicles:
Carry for Associates:
Closed-End ABF Funds vs. Perpetual Vehicles:
Flat Team Structures (Associate → Principal):
In summary, associates in MF ABF teams are unlikely to receive carry, especially in perpetual or insurance-funded vehicles. Compensation is more likely to be cash-based with performance-linked incentives, and carry or profit interest generally starts at more senior levels or in closed-end fund structures.
Sources: Carried interest for Associates / Senior Associates?, Data: Average Private Equity Compensation and Carry from Associate to Managing Partner, Reflections from year 4 as an equity analyst
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