Project BVPS, subtracting neg EPS?

Thinking out loud a bit here...

I am working on a practice analysis of a company with ~0 EBITDA, neg FCF, neg EPS. It's a decent business otherwise and better asset utilitization will lead to positive numbers (and that is mgmt's priority now). However, for now, to set a short term price target, I am using BVPS. I am projecting BV forward using some reasonable assumptions about assets, depreciation, liabilities.I have it in my head that I need to subtract neg EPS from this (EPS is neg, to be totally clear).

Until a few minutes ago I was just going to subtract EPS in the final period (e.g. if BVPS is $2.00 in Dec '13, then I'll deduct the $0.15 in neg EPS in that quarter from that to get $1.85 in net BVPS at that time). However, I've just realized I probably need to deduct all neg earnings for each quarter along the way, don't I?

That makes sense - EPS for the year would be the sum of EPS for each quarter. Damn... my minimum price just got a lot lower.

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Are you trying to build out a residual income model?

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peinvestor2012 mikesswimn:

Are you trying to build out a residual income model?

Sounds like it.

OP, why not use Revenue to derive the ST value?

Yeah, that's what worried me. If the company has roughly $0 EBITDA, I can't imagine there'd be any residuals to model no matter how you looked at it. Just seemed odd at first glance.

OP, I'd go with what peinvestor2012 suggested.

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quintessential

upload the model for peepz to give you crystal clear advice.

Model is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48646408/gasfrac%20analysis.xlsx

Thanks for looking, folks. I apologize, the model is a hack with very little going on... just projecting numbers that need to be projected, either using TTM averages or a guess based on MD&A (http://www.gasfrac.com/financial-statements.html).

peinvestor2012, you mean short term val? I'll look into this... not sure what you mean exactly though. Not sure how revenue by itself is particularly informative.

 

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