Not necessarily. Some designers/(people) prefer cuffed pants because the added weight at the bottom helps keep the pant leg straight and the lines cleaner.

People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for freedom of thought which they seldom use.
 

Yeah true!

Shoulder alterations are more difficult and expensive so I always buy a jacket that fits my shoulders snugly and trousers that fit round the waist properly (altering a pair of trousers round the waist can mess with the pockets and pleats).

Save the alterations for simple things like sleeves/legs & bringing the waist in if needed but that's where they are most effective.

 
Best Response

Very basic, but good guide, nonetheless. Fit is the most important aspect of any outfit. Wearing a conservative, but ill-fitting suit is not going to do you any good because it will look sloppy. Likewise, you can probably get away with a little less conservative aspects of your outfit as long as the fit is good.

Some things that this guide didn't mention:

  • Structure of the suit's shoulders (padded shoulders vs. natural shoulders): a pretty minor detail to the average person, but does make a difference in how the suit is perceived (natural shoulders look a little less formal). You can read this article if you want some in-depth knowledge.

-Jacket lapels (notch vs. peak and lapel width): this one is pretty easy for finance guys. Stay the hell away from peak lapels. As for the lapel width, you can use your own judgement and eyeball it, but obviously nothing too narrow or too wide. The standard width is about 3 to 3.5 inches. If you come into an interview wearing one of those Tom Ford suits with those monstrous peak lapels, you're guaranteed to leave a terrible first impression.

 

Half-windsor all day erryday.

Also, nothing wrong with peak lapels. I have an excellent three-piece pinstripe navy suit with peak lapels. Adds a nice touch of formality to a standard suit.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw
 

I'm not a fatty, and assume most here aren't as well...I think four in hand looks fine 99% of the time. Just don't make it ridiculously tight

humblepie:

how do people feel about tie knots, I don't like the fat windsor look and mostly see try-hards/wannabes rocking that look... not sure if this is just my take though, do people agree?

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!
 
WalMartShopper:

I'm not a fatty, and assume most here aren't as well...I think four in hand looks fine 99% of the time. Just don't make it ridiculously tight

humblepie:

how do people feel about tie knots, I don't like the fat windsor look and mostly see try-hards/wannabes rocking that look... not sure if this is just my take though, do people agree?

For me, it is just tougher to get a 4-in-hand to look as sharp as a half windsor. I'm a smaller guy so It also helps get the length right for me. The real moral of the story is, figure out which knot you like tying, and practice until you can get it consistently sharp.

 
humblepie:

how do people feel about tie knots, I don't like the fat windsor look and mostly see try-hards/wannabes rocking that look... not sure if this is just my take though, do people agree?

My Opinion(just that, nothing more) is that it also depends on the stye of the that you're using. I try to make the size of the knot correlate to the width of the tie.

 

the bit about semi-formal at the top is dead wrong. semi-formal IS black tie (i.e. tuxedo). no ifs, ands or buts about it. If you wear a suit to a "semi-formal" event you will be underdressed. "formal" means white tie (i.e. tails, white gloves, waistcoat, white bow tie, etc.)

and as far as lapels...I wouldn't wear peak lapels to an interview, but they're perfectly acceptable for work if you know what you are wearing.

 

Agree with Governor Caesar. In this graphic, "Semi-Formal" should be labeled "Business" and "Formal" should be "Semi-Formal (Black Tie)". There should be another picture depicting "Formal (White Tie)" which you would really only wear to events like Christmas or debutante balls, and even then only if you're an active participant in the event (usually).

 

Jeans are not business casual but senior guys, especially at smaller shops where there's less general bureaucracy and rules, can do more or less whatever they like. I've been that guy many times-business casual or formal business attire environment and I'll show up in jeans and a sports coat. But I control my time and know if I need to be in full battle gear or if jeans cut it. If an associate does that there's a good chance if they wear jeans I may pull them into a meeting.

 

A few people addressed the full windsor look. It's a personal favorite but bare in mind that it doesn't work with thick ties. It's all about the fabric, if you are doing a more casual vineyard vines tie, then full windsors work perfectly but for some ties you just have to stick with four-in-hand. As far as jeans go, I had an Asset Management internship where jeans on friday were fine, but it all depends on the company really.

 

Just to add on, I have some other handy cheat sheets that some might find useful:

Regarding blazer buttons: http://i.imgur.com/qvJ4kh5.jpg Miscellaneous how to wear a suit: http://i.imgur.com/9ZyEGvb.jpg

Read some of the comments and I think WSO should just make an official WSO guide to dressing. Solve the age old question of "what should I wear" and so we can all get on the same page.

Once I did bad and that I heard ever. Twice I did good and that I heard never.
 

Why would you need to say to leave 1/2 inch of shirt cuff exposed then say jacket sleeve shouldn't exceed the knuckles. How big of a fucking shirt do they think guys wear?

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 

and after you offer her your handkerchief, ask if she wants a slice of penis pie too

You know you've been working too hard when you stop dreaming about bottles of champagne and hordes of naked women, and start dreaming about conditional formatting and circular references.
 

Quia amet nobis aut adipisci. Velit consequuntur quod et inventore officiis maxime et. Eum magni modi corrupti dolore eligendi dolor enim.

Et in voluptatibus beatae qui. Molestias in libero hic suscipit.

Labore quia voluptatem neque necessitatibus sequi aut rem assumenda. Tempora quis aut temporibus sunt recusandae minus iste. A sit ea odit repellat placeat temporibus. Est commodi iste est voluptates iste.

Occaecati molestiae nemo ullam accusantium. Eum qui cum sint laborum et rerum veniam.

 

Qui ea ut eligendi maxime error ea libero. Dolorem vitae maiores veritatis odio voluptatem vel aut. Assumenda est consequatur esse quisquam numquam accusamus eveniet fugit.

Sit quisquam quidem corrupti molestias aut exercitationem. Est sit in est modi quisquam est.

Vel sed mollitia natus sit voluptatem error omnis. Exercitationem ut reiciendis minus autem asperiores. Illum totam et enim ipsum.

Career Advancement Opportunities

March 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. (++) 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

March 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

March 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

March 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (86) $261
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (13) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (202) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (144) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
3
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
4
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
5
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
6
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
7
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
8
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
9
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.9
10
Jamoldo's picture
Jamoldo
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”