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Based on the most helpful WSO content, when negotiating compensation with your PM, it's essential to consider the following factors:

  1. Carve-Out and Performance Fee Structure:

    • If you're working with a $200mm GMV, you need to understand the carry pool and how it's distributed. For example, if the expected return is 15%, that generates $30mm. Assuming a 15% performance fee, the carry pool would be $4.5mm.
    • The distribution of this pool depends on the number of investment professionals and their seniority. Typically, the PM and senior analysts take a larger share, leaving a smaller portion for junior analysts.
  2. Your Contribution and Role:

    • If you're a junior analyst, your bargaining power is limited unless you’ve made significant contributions to the fund's performance. Demonstrating your value through money-making ideas or strong execution can help justify a higher carve-out.
  3. Market Benchmarks:

    • For a fund of this size, junior analysts might not expect to hit $250k-$400k in a "normal" return year unless they have a contractual guarantee or a defined percentage of the carry pool.
    • Top-performing analysts with over five years of experience at similar funds can earn $1mm+ in total comp, but this is typically tied to their ability to generate P&L.
  4. Negotiation Tips:

    • Map out the carry pool and understand the fund's cost structure. This will give you a realistic view of what’s available for bonuses.
    • Be prepared to discuss your contributions and how they align with the fund's performance.
    • If you’re considering other opportunities with better comp prospects, you can leverage that to push for a higher share.

Ultimately, your target should align with your contributions, the fund's performance, and the overall carve-out structure.

Sources: Q&A: HF Analyst @ $5bn+ Fund - Breaking In and Transition to Risk-Taking Role, REIT Compensation at the Analyst level?, What is a Reasonable HF Analyst Bonus in a Bad Year?, Large hedge fund analyst compensation

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There are so many nuances it’s fought to give a real answer. I’m trying but things like. Sector tilts, alpha, hedges, expenses, center book, percent on your pnl (which begs the question I’m asking on digesting returns…). Sorry, know unhelpful but there’s so many ways to structure it that it’s hard to answer. Easy answer: 10 I’ve heard is great and near the top (assuming the other 10 goes to pm). But there’s so much nuance…

 

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