Choice of sector for grads @ MM

I’m curious about how much influence incoming grads typically have in determining which sector they end up covering. As someone joining a platform like P/M/C, I have a few sectors in mind where I believe my background and interests could provide a unique or valuable perspective.

  1. How can I best position myself to increase the chances of being placed in my preferred sectors? Are there specific strategies or conversations I should have early on to make my interests known (in the context of grad programmes like p72 Academy for example).

  2. Which sectors tend to be better or worse in terms of work-life balance, compensation, or overall experience? Is this largely PM-dependent, or are there general trends across sectors that I should be aware of?

Any insights from those with experience in multi-manager platforms would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.

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I work at a MM. Your questions is framed incorrectly. You're not joining an IBD Analyst Program where your worklife balance (WLB) is dictated by your sector team.

TLDR → PM > sector choice as key driver of career success. 

Sector WLB: Stating the obvious, PM investment process + mgmt style will have a much greater impact on your experience than sector game selection. Don't get me wrong... I get that reading up on SNAP and META would be more "fun" then say reading up on the outlook of building materials, but if you sense that your PM has a process which allows for differentiation and repeatability in extracting alpha from sector dispersion (which is really fkn hard to do year in and year out), you won't care what KPI's you're tracking. You'll be focused on making PNL. I'd even argue it's more cool to cover an old economy business with limited coverage / airtime then being the 10th pod trafficking in the same tickers and having half of X talking about their takes on your tickers. Idk.. . obv you can still do well in sexier sectors, I just feel like it's better to develop a unique skillset w differentiated sector expertise, and thus being harder to replace in a world where we get marginalized every second.

Regardless, your longevity in an extremely high churn profession where avg. employment is ~2 yrs and most pods / HF's don't make it past the 5 yr mark will be almost exclusively be dictated by:

a) learning the craft from a great PM/Analyst
b) your PM's ability and willingness to teach portfolio construction
c) luck (time and place)

Success in MM investing is about ability to stay alive and not drawdown past your risk limits, and pounce when opportunity presents itself, repeatedly. We're in the error minimization game (think tennis).

Sector preference: It's hard, but don't stare blindly on what's perceived as "fun" to cover. I promise... when you're winning everything is fun. When you're losing everything sucks. Lets reframe... So all else being equal, is there a way to have a preference? I'd say ~80-90% PM dependent, but ... "good sectors" (which is highly subjective what that actually means) portrays (again imo...) certain characteristics; e.g. high relative intra-sector dispersion (spread between winners and losers), high alpha-to-specialization (knowledge & skill compounds over time), has a degree of cyclicality (cycles drive change which drives mispricings creating lags of market expectations relative to microeconomic realities). 

Increasing chances of desired coverage: Let's assume you do have a preference for whatever reason (say family biz in an industry, specialist college education which can give you a leg up, e.g. medicine covering healthcare etc)... Demonstrating well-informed non-obvious questions and topics about the craft through proactive coffee chats with seasoned PM's doesn't hurt... Demonstrating past interest in the sector through idk... coursework, internships, hobby/knowledge, PA investing may help.

However, the bigger question you should ask yourself is why should the PM pick you? Like any other profession I want to be comfortable that you are smart enough, can do the job, and most importantly, be fun to be around (I'm gonna spend more time with you then my family).

I also want to be comfortable with you realizing that if you have ticker's to cover, I shouldn't need to have to tell you that complacency = death in this profession. It's not a 9-5, it's a lifestyle.

When you're taking a shit you better have the Bloomie app open on your phone skimming for root-cause of price changes and scan for actionable ideas, and not swipe on chicks on Hinge... at least during market hours... Also okay if you're doing field research / "inventory checks" on MTCH :)

Bottom line → Pick a PM with good track over a long period of time with good team culture which emphasizes learning. That's the greatest value add for you assuming you're there to learn the craft + believe life is too short to wake up and work with daft people.

 

To add onto the sector expertise thing, I agree with your take. I’m by no means the smartest or have the best resume, but I have carved out a very unique niche, and get looks from places because of it. Often times it’s a “we just want someone who understands this” situation.


I think the approach of trying to be a big fish in a small pond, rather than fighting for your life in the ocean is the correct approach. There’s thousands of kids who went to target schools & understand real estate, TMT, renewables, etc.

The less “sexy” sectors are easy to specialize in, and there is next to no competition. No one wants to be the forestry, ocean shipping, agriculture, mining, textile, offshore oil, etc “expert”.

Just my two cents but it’s better to be the person who can identify a new feed supplement for cows that will cause them to grow 20% more, the worlds next huge lithium mine based on geological reports, rather than being one of 100 people trying to make money from tech companies with 100B+ market caps.

Plus with a lot of the boring sectors you often can extract value when the market is up or down (ex: gold goes up during inflation & down when the economy does well, but iron ore goes up when the economy is doing well & there’s a lot of building).

 

Feels like it was pretty straightforward advice? Find the best PMs in the sector you’re interested in and try to impress them.

 

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