I did not end up buying from him but he offered a a bunch of stuff for 2.5k. Good guy that was willing to offer me help / advice on call. He sent me his CV and some other stuff he used to recruit for free.
He is a scam, he gave me credentials to try before purchasing. It was on someone’s name from Singapore. I checked the billing page and it was not his information either - when i pointed this out he went ahead and changed the name from the account
He is going with the name Anton, but the account was sketchy and someone else’s. My best guess is that it’s stolen.
Kudos to Brett. Smart and accomplished especially from ASU. The content is not bad but you can find comparable online - the guest speaker and classroom sessions were worth. I am assuming your fund is paying for this. Out of pocket not worth imo.
I took Fundamental Edge a couple years back before starting my seat and honestly most of it was fluff. Brett going through long decks of info that sounds good but isn't practical. I ended up not using any of it on the job and it’s hard to see how it’s worth the money for recruiting. You can get pretty similar stuff for free or way cheaper just reading WSO and newsletters. Save your 5k imo
I took FE a couple years back before starting my seat and honestly most of it was fluff. Brett going through really long decks of info that sounds good but isn't practical. I ended up not using any of it on the job and it’s hard to see how it’s worth anything close to 5k for recruiting. You can get pretty similar stuff for free or way cheaper just reading WSO and newsletters. Save your money imo
Seeing many paid promo posts and pretty scammy comments lately. As someone who has paid for basically every resource out there I’ll try to give an objective assessment the WSO community deserves. For context I was in IB about to join a pod at C / P / BAM. Took me more than a year to get there.
TLDR They’re different in their own ways. I personally consider FE and PL best in class because they largely shaped the frameworks I ended up using in interviews. None of these have signaling value when it comes to getting hired. No one cares if you “took X course.” It’s all about what you actually know and how you think about businesses and stocks. So treat this purely as learning resources, not as something that will get you the job on its own.
Fun E (+) Decent frameworks for thinking about businesses. How to analyze an industry, what makes a good and bad business, and how to assess earnings quality. I used this as a starting point in interviews and pitches. (-) Price is steep for what you get. Don’t love the upselling of programs and 1-1 prep. Some of Brett’s ideas feel a bit outdated.
Pho L (+) Useful materials for the multimanager lens. Relative value, setups in your pitch thesis, and idea generation in the short and long run. Helped in interview discussions with analysts and some ideas came up in how they trade names. (-) It’s quite unstructured. I had to dig through the content and figure out what’s actually useful. Skewed toward TMT and consumer.
P Frame (+) Cheap resource if you’re new to the industry. Covers the basics of strategies, compensation, modeling, and pitching. Slides are clean and material is explained well. Good for college kids exploring the hedge fund industry as a career path. (-) Way too basic for top funds. The pitches and memos are fine if you’re starting from scratch but won’t meet the bar once you’re deeper into the process.
WS p BS modeling This is with FE again and it was pretty underwhelming with my IB background. Helpful for someone in college or without modeling experience, but for most WSO lurkers there’s nothing new here. I heard the expensive program isn't good.
This is really good. Appreciate the insights as I had my eyes on them. Thanks!
Any thoughts on the value of the Job Boards for FE, PL, and Peak? Are these boards actually worth it for unique lead flow, or is it mostly just the same stuff found on LinkedIn and headhunter radars? Also, how accessible are Brett (FE), Stefan (PL), or Matt (Peak) for direct guidance. Is there a way to actually speak with them to get feedback on a profile or strategy, or is the content strictly self paced?
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Is it worth buying discounted or just skipping altogether
I bought it and it helped me get my current seat…For me it was worth every penny, but if u can get a discount even better
Bump
Genuinely amazing but not worth the price - someone on Reddit selling at a crazy discount.
What price did he ask you for? He claims to only be selling to one person and then went out and published a whole thread offering to everyone
I did not end up buying from him but he offered a a bunch of stuff for 2.5k. Good guy that was willing to offer me help / advice on call. He sent me his CV and some other stuff he used to recruit for free.
He is a scam, he gave me credentials to try before purchasing. It was on someone’s name from Singapore. I checked the billing page and it was not his information either - when i pointed this out he went ahead and changed the name from the account
He is going with the name Anton, but the account was sketchy and someone else’s. My best guess is that it’s stolen.
Kudos to Brett. Smart and accomplished especially from ASU. The content is not bad but you can find comparable online - the guest speaker and classroom sessions were worth. I am assuming your fund is paying for this. Out of pocket not worth imo.
I took it and am happy to answer any questions
Do not check here regularly, so just send me a DM on Insta / X
Just brought Phoenix Learning this morning… let’s see.
It's trash.
What's the difference and which is generally considered better? This is the first I've heard of it
Obviously FE. Phoenix taught me nothing. FE is geared to get you hired. I went for Phoenix wanting to save $s but ended up having to buy FE anyway.
I took Fundamental Edge a couple years back before starting my seat and honestly most of it was fluff. Brett going through long decks of info that sounds good but isn't practical. I ended up not using any of it on the job and it’s hard to see how it’s worth the money for recruiting. You can get pretty similar stuff for free or way cheaper just reading WSO and newsletters. Save your 5k imo
I took FE a couple years back before starting my seat and honestly most of it was fluff. Brett going through really long decks of info that sounds good but isn't practical. I ended up not using any of it on the job and it’s hard to see how it’s worth anything close to 5k for recruiting. You can get pretty similar stuff for free or way cheaper just reading WSO and newsletters. Save your money imo
Course has changed since then…New version of the academy is less rambling more worked examples
Seeing many paid promo posts and pretty scammy comments lately. As someone who has paid for basically every resource out there I’ll try to give an objective assessment the WSO community deserves. For context I was in IB about to join a pod at C / P / BAM. Took me more than a year to get there.
TLDR They’re different in their own ways. I personally consider FE and PL best in class because they largely shaped the frameworks I ended up using in interviews. None of these have signaling value when it comes to getting hired. No one cares if you “took X course.” It’s all about what you actually know and how you think about businesses and stocks. So treat this purely as learning resources, not as something that will get you the job on its own.
Fun E
(+) Decent frameworks for thinking about businesses. How to analyze an industry, what makes a good and bad business, and how to assess earnings quality. I used this as a starting point in interviews and pitches.
(-) Price is steep for what you get. Don’t love the upselling of programs and 1-1 prep. Some of Brett’s ideas feel a bit outdated.
Pho L
(+) Useful materials for the multimanager lens. Relative value, setups in your pitch thesis, and idea generation in the short and long run. Helped in interview discussions with analysts and some ideas came up in how they trade names.
(-) It’s quite unstructured. I had to dig through the content and figure out what’s actually useful. Skewed toward TMT and consumer.
P Frame
(+) Cheap resource if you’re new to the industry. Covers the basics of strategies, compensation, modeling, and pitching. Slides are clean and material is explained well. Good for college kids exploring the hedge fund industry as a career path.
(-) Way too basic for top funds. The pitches and memos are fine if you’re starting from scratch but won’t meet the bar once you’re deeper into the process.
WS p BS modeling
This is with FE again and it was pretty underwhelming with my IB background. Helpful for someone in college or without modeling experience, but for most WSO lurkers there’s nothing new here. I heard the expensive program isn't good.
Dissapointed by Pho L, guy did like 2 years in Points fundamental research group or whatever that is
I feel the same.
This is really good. Appreciate the insights as I had my eyes on them. Thanks!
Any thoughts on the value of the Job Boards for FE, PL, and Peak? Are these boards actually worth it for unique lead flow, or is it mostly just the same stuff found on LinkedIn and headhunter radars? Also, how accessible are Brett (FE), Stefan (PL), or Matt (Peak) for direct guidance. Is there a way to actually speak with them to get feedback on a profile or strategy, or is the content strictly self paced?
Any updates, anyone? :)
Anyone interested in co-buying FE or PL together and splitting the cost? I'm curious but no longer work in finance.
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